mini normal 2226; who won

[Gamma Emerald]

I am willing to vote Chaos if NM somehow flips town because of the investigative PRs:


Datisi is town to me because he's adorbs and Titus protected him.
Gamma is town because Chaos said so.
I do think 4 investigative PRs is a bit much so it's either Chaos or NM and NM is just way shadier than Chaos on play?

NM has an action tonight that might be useful
chaos has literally expended his entire ability to catch scum now that umlaut has been eliminated
so off utility I'd prefer to let NM live another cycle

[Titus]

Datisi, are you ok with calling NM checking anyone besides Chaos a scumclaim?

[MathBlade]

Then why are you arguing this one isn’t? When it clearly is based on the proposed data?

because you are using logical fallacies to argue that this game is broken beyond repair and we should kill chaos?

It is broken and by definition that means beyond repair
And elimming chaos wins the game whatever alignment
Chaos scum >> 1-2 scum doesn’t survive against this stack
Chaos town >> townfirms force a scum bus or in elo accusing buddies
Win win let’s gooo

[DkKoba]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

[MathBlade]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

Yes because that’s my scum meta so scum are doing it

[Lukewarm]

If all of the prs are real, then that means that the scum team is exactly math+ari, and this has just all been theatre....

That does not feel right.

So, I really think that Chaos is scum here. Maybe Not_Mafia. But one of them has to be, right?

[Gamma Emerald]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

Yes because that’s my scum meta so scum are doing it

who is scum doing that here?

[MathBlade]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

Yes because that’s my scum meta so scum are doing it

who is scum doing that here?

PR claims
Fake a result
Get townread
Coast

[DkKoba]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

Yes because that’s my scum meta so scum are doing it

no thats how *you* do it, and scum tend to project their own scumtell onto townies to get mislims lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

"the game is broken, lets kill the person who helped bury a scum and is generally towny"

Yes because that’s my scum meta so scum are doing it

who is scum doing that here?

PR claims
Fake a result
Get townread
Coast

what?????

[Datisi]

Datisi, are you ok with calling NM checking anyone besides Chaos a scumclaim?

if you manage to get him to acknowledge that, sure

[DkKoba]

If all of the prs are real, then that means that the scum team is exactly math+ari, and this has just all been theatre....

That does not feel right.

So, I really think that Chaos is scum here. Maybe Not_Mafia. But one of them has to be, right?

ok but ignoring mechs - why is chaos scum?

[DkKoba]

VC 3.FINAL

Alchemist21 (6):

Aristeia 2101, Titus 2484, Datisi 2486, MathBlade 2597, Gamma Emerald 2636, Lukewarm 2647

there it is.

Titus (1):

Alchemist21 2108

Lukewarm (1):

ChaosOmega 2003

Aristeia (1):

DkKoba 2419

Not Voting:

Not_Mafia

With 10 alive it takes 6 to destroy.

whos scum on the Alch wagon?

[Gamma Emerald]

NM is SRing chaos, I think he's aware that we're trying to get him to target there
imo he doesn't have to acknowledge to be aware

[DkKoba]

and before MB tries to again try to deflect by claiming their "scum skill"

no sorry, nobody is perfect as scum and they get caught in awkward situations eventually.

I have been myself. It happens. Townsided setups can exacerbate it too.

The fact is until I was hardpushing my reads MB was way under the radar and prob would have been if I hadn't been *insistent* about it.

[Lukewarm]

If all of the prs are real, then that means that the scum team is exactly math+ari, and this has just all been theatre....

That does not feel right.

So, I really think that Chaos is scum here. Maybe Not_Mafia. But one of them has to be, right?

ok but ignoring mechs - why is chaos scum?

I have been scum reading chaos since day 1. I can pull up all of the cases, but like his entire iso feels scummy to me.

The only thing that I have seen you (or anyone really) say that makes him town was his empty vote on umlaut day 1.

[DkKoba]

fam thats just chaos' playstyle.

yall just can't read some people by default and ya dont wanna admit it when someone comes in and says you gotta look at everything as a whole

here's an exercise: look for reasons why chaos is town with a bias assuming they are conftown.


i think you will find a change of heart.

[DkKoba]

in essence- the play is way too complex for scum. scum only look at the next step in most cases.

it takes a leap of faith for chaos to do what they are doing.

i'll consider them in limlo *only* if math were to flip scum but im definitely not seeing them as scum here at all.

[DkKoba]

i meant if math were to flip town*

im on that tunnel vision rn >:)

[MathBlade]

in essence- the play is way too complex for scum. scum only look at the next step in most cases.

it takes a leap of faith for chaos to do what they are doing.

i'll consider them in limlo *only* if math were to flip scum but im definitely not seeing them as scum here at all.

If you’re not seeing me as scum why are you pushing me as scum?

[MathBlade]

Koba scum slip?
Chaos Koba?

[Gamma Emerald]

ffs

[Lukewarm]

fam thats just chaos' playstyle.

yall just can't read some people by default and ya dont wanna admit it when someone comes in and says you gotta look at everything as a whole

here's an exercise: look for reasons why chaos is town with a bias assuming they are conftown.


i think you will find a change of heart.

It is just his playstyle to give out very little reads day 1?

Or for him to base his read on someone else (me) seemingly entirely around whether or not I scum read him?

Because my interactions with him early on were very much:

I vote him, and explain why.
He omgus votes me, and calls me scum.

I move my vote away from him.
He unvotes me, and vaguely says that I would not do that as scum.

I vote him again the next day.
He is back to calling me scum

That feels wrong to me.

[Lukewarm]

in essence- the play is way too complex for scum. scum only look at the next step in most cases.

it takes a leap of faith for chaos to do what they are doing.

i'll consider them in limlo *only* if math were to flip scum but im definitely not seeing them as scum here at all.

If you’re not seeing me as scum why are you pushing me as scum?

Koba scum slip?
Chaos Koba?

This, uh.....

Makes me want to vote for math...

[DkKoba]

Koba scum slip?
Chaos Koba?

you can feel the desperation in this post LMFAO