Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:21 pm

I'm townreading House as of this page

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:22 pm

In post 625, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm townreading House as of this page

Errr... as of the previous page

Harvey and Haley · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:25 pm

In post 623, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:It's easy to conjecture about what numbers scum would pick, but it's not particularly helpful - and their conjectures aren't necessarily accurate. I've seen all 3 scum pick double digit numbers for the express purpose of avoiding number collision, which did end up working out to scum's benefit. This kind of setup spec (or draft spec, specifically) read more like busywork to me. And consequently, giving him a townread in 202 seemed premature.

I'm not arguing about the absolute accuracy of these conjectures, rather how they compare against other tells.

Consider:
"I think X is towny for doing <Y> early in the game!"
"But scum can easily do <Y>"

Any

possible value you can fill for <Y> can be faked by scum and thus not necessarily accurate, especially in early game. That doesn't diminish the value of these reads.
Draft spec is busywork if it leads nowhere, but in his case it had already seemed to set a prior for alignments of certain others.

-Harvey

Harvey and Haley · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:26 pm

In post 624, Gamma Emerald wrote:Has it all been the one head?

I have been signing all my posts -Harvey; are you saying you actually assumed that one RQS post was from the other head?

-Harvey

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:29 pm

I suppose you can say that, but it's not like he voted anyone in his scumpool by that point. How could you tell he was going to follow throughm, or if the draft spec reads even meant anything to him?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:32 pm

I guess I just don't see those posts as AI

Harvey and Haley · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:36 pm

In post 629, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I suppose you can say that, but it's not like he voted anyone in his scumpool by that point. How could you tell he was going to follow throughm, or if the draft spec reads even meant anything to him?

I don't really expect immediate consistent follow-throughs but I did assume that would factor into his play in a more meaningful manner, hence my question to him earlier on his Gamma vote when House pointed that out. I don't think that was an unreasonable assumption at that point.

-Harvey

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:38 pm

Yeah I suppose that's fair. It was an early read.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:41 pm

In post 628, Harvey and Haley wrote:
In post 624, Gamma Emerald wrote:Has it all been the one head?
I have been signing all my posts -Harvey; are you saying you actually assumed that one RQS post was from the other head?

-Harvey

Kinda
I have literally zero ability to tell you two apart by tags

Harvey and Haley · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:46 pm

In post 633, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kinda
I have literally zero ability to tell you two apart by tags

Our posting styles are also different (evidenced by one of my partner's earlier posts), and my partner also packs more content into single posts. This kind of hasty assumption feels unexpected from you.

-Harvey

Harvey and Haley · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:48 pm

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

-H

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:53 pm

In post 449, Titus wrote:
In post 416, Thor Ragnarok wrote:VOTE: Gamma

House, why did you move away from your main on Wake? I thought your playstyle there was quite smooth and buttery
I has sads. You ignored my reachout.

It was a nice reach out. You have impressive flexibility

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:34 pm

In post 612, Harvey and Haley wrote:Thor did state it, but likely only as an observation of interest. Draft positions are heavily randomly determined, as opposed to number picks - so I doubt that Thor actually places any stock in that.

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:36 pm

I only joined this game for the numbers

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:37 pm

The wagon on me is very sad though :(

Perhaps the saddest point ever in the history of this PyP game

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:44 pm

In post 612, Harvey and Haley wrote:But I agree with the next part. @Thor, did you have stronger reasoning to vote Gamma than from your earlier likely-containing-scum pools?

Nope

My gut was town on House and meh on Gamma so I voted Gamma

ISO · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:44 pm

VOTE: Thor

pedit: and enchant?

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:45 pm

What about him?

ISO · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:46 pm

hmm
can you explain why I'm tempted to join you on CSF?

ISO · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:50 pm

Sorry that's a wild tangent. My enchant thought was a lot less interesting.

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:51 pm

I don't know, she feels off. My reads are primarily stewed in the gut, especially early, so I can't explain further

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:52 pm

And the numbers make her a much better vote than Gamma

ISO · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:53 pm

How so? Gimme your read on the numbers. Expand as much as you like, fuckery welcome.

Enchant · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:53 pm

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

Thor Ragnarok · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:54 pm

In post 647, the worst wrote:How so? Gimme your read on the numbers. Expand as much as you like, fuckery welcome.

Okay, in a bit