mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

[T3]

Town you will get exasperated and OMGUS tunnel someone. Scum you will write furious quotewalls.

[T3]

Citations:
Me in Calculasia
Me in ODM
Mena in another game

[Dwlee99]

My RCE scumread is probably influenced by recency bias

[Dwlee99]

Mmm I feel like whatever we do I will not feel good about it. I can't nail someone as definitely scum but I just am not feeling like consensus reads are correct right now

[Dwlee99]

T3 did you ever try to meta for my alignment rather than my positioning with scum buddies?

[Dwlee99]

Btw we are in 7-3 rn so mislimming actually might mean we lose on parity. Cause scum probably have three kills ready and it seems like people are going to make sure Bingle dies

[NorwegianboyEE]

Three kills ready but noone target Mastina/GCB?

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

Three kills ready but noone target Mastina/GCB?

GCB is watcher bait and mastina I am not convinced is town. Was there harmography on Mastina? Don't feel like checking

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes. That’s literally what i did.

[Dwlee99]

I want a list of everything claimed but am on mobile so maybe later when I go back on desktop I can reason through everything

[Dwlee99]

Ah fun. So I feel like it's reasonable to think scum all used pain potions if they had one. Do you agree?

[Dwlee99]

^hence three kills probably lined up

[NorwegianboyEE]

Absolutely done with this game. Since everyone has checked in, I’m assuming all pain potions have been claimed already if used. We harmographied Bingle and can confirm Fairy Circle pain potioned him. So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

- lilith

Lilith's claim. Prior to lilith's claim, with some reasonable assumptions:

Town would not lie.
Bingle did not pain Bingle, and in fact had claimed no potions the day before.
Mastina vote on Bingle -> Mastina did not heal Bingle.
FC claimed a pain on Bingle.
T3 pained Limit
Dwlee vote on Bingle -> Dwlee did not heal Bingle.
Norwee harmo'd mastina
RCE pained FC
Emporer did not pain
GCB - didn't bother checking because one degree of freedom couldn't introduce risk.

So unless GCB had both pained and healed me, unless I was healed limit could be reasonably sure I was pained exactly once. The only way I was healed was if it was done by GCB, which wouldn't catch limit in a lie, or if scum did it. IF limit is scum here, they knew that their claim of only you having pained me was a safe one to make before they made it. This is not evidence that limit is scum, btw, just evidence that townreading limit on the basis of the Harmo result is blegh.

As to why limit would out the info? It gives them a reasonable-ish action to have taken N1. It's only potentially clearing if one of us flips scum, and as I know I won't and I appear likely to flip before you (And did at the time of lilith's claim) it's completely unlikely to be clearing in any case.

[T3]

T3 did you ever try to meta for my alignment rather than my positioning with scum buddies?

I did earlier and found nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah fun. So I feel like it's reasonable to think scum all used pain potions if they had one. Do you agree?

Not necesarilly.
I think the distribution and amount of pain potions/other potions + the scum teams situation heavily impact their strategy.
I don’t know what it is, but i enough to assume that it’s probably not so simple as "they all pain".

[NorwegianboyEE]

They might even go no pain for night 1 just to make town use their harmo. And then use it later.

[Dwlee99]

That was all bingle centric.

I feel like no paining N1 would be a bad strategy

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Dwlee forgetting that i harmo’d Mastina might be slight town indicative ish…?
Because scum!him would pay more attention to things like that if his team used poison on targets last night?

[T3]

Scum will probably have 3 4 or 5 pain potions = not 3 kills.

[Dwlee99]

Scum will probably have 3 4 or 5 pain potions = not 3 kills.

Well if there was friendly fire three kills could still happen but this is true. Maybe not paining N1 is a working strategy if scumteam can pain N2 and N3 before the potion reset

[Dwlee99]

Not paining also would assume they don't get eliminated the next day and lose their potions

[RCEnigma]

Mastina is different because they acted genuinely mad that we flipped town!Titus. Which feels a lot more genuine than your lame reaction.

I wasn't here for deadline, what reaction?

[T3]

scum potion spec is useless

[RCEnigma]

Citations:
Me in Calculasia
Me in ODM
Mena in another game

I don't know any of these games but tunneling menalque sounds familiar.