3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Scum want to win too and it will be harder for them to overcome a cult than town. They're motivated to cult-hunt with their kill, so if we can expose likely suspects and agree with the scum to lim there and have the scum lower poe with kills, we can find the Cult Leader quickest that way

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: Dwlee

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Meg claims to have rolled it, not to have received it, and I'm not sure that a cult leader would out that they rolled that if they received their own role.

If I roleblock Meg they cannot recruit, right? There's no obscure exception?

You're really confusing me right now.

If a roleblocker blocks Meg, it stops whatever her role would try to do. It's a 1/13 that she got what she rolled, and 12/13 that she did not get what she rolled. I'm of the opinion that it is very unlikely not just because of math but because she outed it, that she is not Cult Leader.

@RMH, just want to make sure I second Marashu's sentiment as you may be able to stop recruitment if you target correctly. Meg is not very likely to be cult leader because she outed the roll. If she were cult she could have waited to claim and claimed something similar to other players' rollclaims for plausibility later, and we would have no idea there is a cult right now. Block someone else that seems likely to be cult leader to you if we dont elim cult leader toDay.

[Dwlee99]

I'm pretty sure the only reason we know there is probably a cult is because I asked for it to be outed.

[Dwlee99]

Im just gonna claim cause scum apparently might know my role and it's semi-confirmable if y'all think it is a good idea

[cyrus62]

I'm pretty sure the only reason we know there is probably a cult is because I asked for it to be outed.

ummm no someone rolled cult bus driver.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Could be your role was rolled by the actual cult leader as well so consider that before claiming.

[Dwlee99]

I'm pretty sure the only reason we know there is probably a cult is because I asked for it to be outed.

ummm no someone rolled cult bus driver.

And I asked for people to claim if they rolled cult.

Could be your role was rolled by the actual cult leader as well so consider that before claiming.

I mean, I don't see how that changes anything here cause it means scum knows my role and town doesn't.

[cyrus62]

i honestly think dw is pro team meaning not 3dr party.

[JamesTheNames]

Mechanics are the most interesting parts of mafia

You've already fallen prey to the cult of Metabad, I see.

That is giving yourself so much more credit than warranted Dwlee. A cult would have been outed.

[JamesTheNames]

Actually MegAzumarill could indeed be lying as scum.

[Robert M Hunter]

Meow I am on break, I will be able to catch up tonight.

[Nero Cain]

Why wouldn't we hammer mega?

At the end of page 7 you and RMH hadn't posted anything yet, Thor and MegA had fewer than 5 posts each, I think DotW also had very little posts at that point. Do you think it would have been right to hammer MegA at that time?

I feel like this is a misrepresentation. We shouldn't be ending the day by p7 anyways and I don't even think that's what redtea was saying.when I wrote this I had actually forgotten that mega was on an Uber long v/la and I was saying that I wouldn't mind killing a useless lurksack.

[Nero Cain]

Also town reading cakez=//=buddying. Do u have any town reads?

[Dwlee99]

I mean sure but I'd probably at least hope the person who rolled it didn't say anything if I was cult instead of asking for it.

[T3]

VOTE: cakez
Can we please just go for the obvscum right here?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm pretty sure the only reason we know there is probably a cult is because I asked for it to be outed.

ummm no someone rolled cult bus driver.

And I asked for people to claim if they rolled cult.

Could be your role was rolled by the actual cult leader as well so consider that before claiming.

I mean, I don't see how that changes anything here cause it means scum knows my role and town doesn't.

If scum knows it, it may motivate them to kill you instead of aiming for cult. If cult knows it, it may motivate them to recruit you. If your role is really not on the list, one of those factions already has a good idea of what your role could be. If you claim, they will both know exactly what it is, and by extension will know more about Marashu's role.

So it does matter, but there's no way anyone but you can determine if it should be claimed now or not

Why wouldn't we hammer mega?

At the end of page 7 you and RMH hadn't posted anything yet, Thor and MegA had fewer than 5 posts each, I think DotW also had very little posts at that point. Do you think it would have been right to hammer MegA at that time?

I feel like this is a misrepresentation. We shouldn't be ending the day by p7 anyways and I don't even think that's what redtea was saying.when I wrote this I had actually forgotten that mega was on an Uber long v/la and I was saying that I wouldn't mind killing a useless lurksack.

If this is anything, it's a misunderstanding. I was rereading the game because I've been focusing on mechanics and that comment by redtea on the end of page 6 stood out to me. I feel like you were taking my question to mean that right now when I posted the question that I was against eliminating Meg. That's not what I was implying and I wanted to clear that up. The more I've thought about it though, I doubt Meg is Cult, and I want to find Cult first, so now (but not at the time I posted 770), I am opposed to eliminating Meg.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Shit, just realized cult can bus drive james and the rolecop results will be wrong...

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh but the leader isn't likely to be multitasking I suppose

[T3]

Updated and fixed list, in chronological order:

These are the current roll claims, who made them, and the post they were made in:
Ssbm_Kyouko - [13, 8, 1] Mafia Parity Cop with no modification - 25
Dwlee99 - [12, 8, 14] Town Parity Cop with a

Rampaging

modication - 34
Marashu - [1-12, 8, 7] Town Parity Cop with an Even-Night modification - 37
MegAzumarill - [19, 17, 20] Cult Bus Driver with a Reroll Twice modification - 57
JamesTheNames - [6, 10, 7] Town Tracker with an Even-Night modification - 64
Cyrus62 - [7, 7, 1] Town Paranoid Gun Owner with no modification - 72
T3 - [1-12, 14, 5] Town Voyeur with a Multitasking modification - 139
Thor Ragnarok - [1-12, 19, ?] Town Roleblocker with an unknown modification - 167
Redtea - [14, 6, 20] Mafia Fruit Vendor with a Reroll Twice modification - 171
Nero Cain - [1-12, 9, ?] Town Rolecop with an unknown Modification - 226
SirCakez - [1-12, 9, 20] Town Rolecop with a Reroll Twice modication - 268
Dragon of the West - [1-12, 5, ?] Town Neighborizer with an unknown modification - 322
Robert M Hunter - [2, 19, 3] Town Roleblocker with no modification - 344

There are a few very weak roles on here that I think should claim so we have possible conftown.

[T3]

Specifically the Even Night Parity Cop, Multitasking Voyeur, and Odd Night Roleblocker.

[T3]

These roles are very limited and don't do much. Also possibly the even night tracker.

[Dragon of the West]

Specifically the Even Night Parity Cop, Multitasking Voyeur, and Odd Night Roleblocker.

Disagree with this because the roles could have been strengthened or had the alignment changed. It doesn't necessarily create conftown

[T3]

Meh true.

[Dragon of the West]

It seemed like to me he's just saying that he has a role that someone rolled

I'm saying my role isn't what that someone claimed and if my modifier also doesn't match up to a claim then we know someone lied because only one dice can be changed by mod in someone's role.

No this is why people weren't supposed to claim if something matches exactly - if scum rolled your role and lied about it they now know what you have

How would they narrow anything down though? If you were in a normal newbie game and said "I'm one of the 9 roles" it doesn't reveal what you actually are. The same applies here does it not?

No, I'll explain with a hypothetical. Let's say I was given a scum role, but I rolled town rampaging doctor. If I'm scum, I could lie about what I rolled. Then, if someone says "my role isn't on the list", I know that person is way more likely to be the rampaging doctor I rolled. If we claim "on the list" or "not on the list", it gives info to scum without giving anything equivalent back to town.

Also, I didn't understand how claiming it was not on the list would benefit scum until this Kyo post...and it seems you didn't fully grasp it either. So saying someone else is scum, especially for what wasn't clear or discussed until AFTER their posts you're saying are scummy, seems really hypocritical

James this was @ you btw, I'd like your thoughts on how this relates to your Dwlee read