3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

I have a kinda dumb q. Only a cult bus driver has been claimed. No way the mod keeps a stand alone cult in the game right? So does make someone's role a cr or is it like rmh said that the cult bd is also a cr?

[Robert M Hunter]

Mechanics are the most interesting parts of mafia

This is the post I am referring to, where James is digging his heels in about loving mechanics. Now, hear me out, I have almost no experience playing town, so take it with a grain of salt, but his mechanics Ted Talks seems very earnest and useful. They don't appear to be thrown around as a distraction. They follow a stepwise, natural course of inquiry. Can someone explain to me why this is scummy?

[Robert M Hunter]

I have a kinda dumb q. Only a cult bus driver has been claimed. No way the mod keeps a stand alone cult in the game right? So does make someone's role a cr or is it like rmh said that the cult bd is also a cr?

I am making an assumption that cult has to be able to recruit or it's not a cult but I could be wrong.

[Marashu]

I have a kinda dumb q. Only a cult bus driver has been claimed. No way the mod keeps a stand alone cult in the game right? So does make someone's role a cr or is it like rmh said that the cult bd is also a cr?

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- Cult

Granted Cult Leader abilities as well. Re-roll this as Third Party if a Cult Leader already exists.

There's only one for now; if there were more rolled one would be rerolled. 1 cult with no cult limit in a 13p game is still a threat.

[Robert M Hunter]

Could "cult" be just a name for a third party whose only ability is "bus driver?"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hes also just disappeared and this is exactly what he did in Chrono Trigger Chronicles when I pegged him D1 for his play. He disappeared and laid low until the gamestate moved elsewhere.

i want to believe this but it makes me uneasy

he said there are other roles that can work like a rolecop which softs neighborizer. Put all that together he's very likely Neighborizer

how does "like a rolecop" lead to "softs neighborizer"?

Dragon crumbled Doubled in his first 2 posts btw - he repeated that quote about the Lotus tile word for word.

This was before Dragon should have known about a multitasking role, so if we flip any multitasking scum, Dragon needs to go (assuming we've already caught cult)

yall are making my head spin so much how does this work

You dont have to choose whether to believe it, just read the chrono trigger chronicles scum pt. His disappearance here looks the same as in that game. Game just ended a couple weeks ago. However, I think he's definitely town here now that there's more context to his gambit.

Neighborizers are considered like an investigative because they can privately talk to a player to ask them questions that they couldn't ask in the main thread. The wiki compares them in this way, that's what I think he meant by "like a rolecop" considering his claim by poe - that was definitely a soft and it could only be for tracker or Neighborizer in the context of the rest of his posts.

Dragon's saying that wasnt a doubled crumb, but what I am implying is that James and Dragon are scum together, one of the scumteam got a multitasking role and they want to cover for their multitasker performing a kill and an action in one night by claiming that the multitasker is doubled. Multitasking voyeur could claim doubled Neighborizer, perform the NK and voyeur a teammate, then if the tracker tracked the multitasking voyeur they could claim doubled Neighborizer and their buddy could back them up.

Similar logic applies to any multitasking scum role that could target a buddy - if they get tracked while doing it they can claim doubled. The doubled soft without a role claim means to me Dragon wanted to crumb doubled before he should have been aware of a multitasking role, so someone on his team could have it. That someone would probably be James who is aware of a Tracker, unless there is another scum out there that rolled a tracker and lied about it.

[Marashu]

Mechanics are the most interesting parts of mafia

This is the post I am referring to, where James is digging his heels in about loving mechanics. Now, hear me out, I have almost no experience playing town, so take it with a grain of salt, but his mechanics Ted Talks seems very earnest and useful. They don't appear to be thrown around as a distraction. They follow a stepwise, natural course of inquiry. Can someone explain to me why this is scummy?

Because it's easy for scum to avoid faking reads by talking about mechanics instead. Appear to be helping while not really contributing, all while pushing a narrative explaining why mechanics back up a (false) solve.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

The cult recruiter, I assume, has two functions. Recruitment and Bus Driving. Does a roleblock stop both or just the second one?

Roleblock should block both. Roleblock does stop factional abilities like the scum's nightkill.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Could "cult" be just a name for a third party whose only ability is "bus driver?"

I think it's full role name would be [modifier(s)] Cult Leader Bus Driver. Cult faction with the ability to either recruit or Bus Drive, unless the reroll twice happened to roll multitasking, or was fudged into multitasking on purpose for balance by the mod. If the Cult Leader is multitasking I could see it being only 2 scum and the modified rolls being role or modifier rolls, rather than alignment ones.

Think we have 3 players claiming their role is not on the list now. Could be scum and cult lied about what they rolled, and are banking on CCing to go 1 for 1 at some point? Seems iffy, and that more likely some of the players with roles off-list are scum or cult.

I guess with 3 outed now, we could ask if anyone else off the list wants to come forward - that would mean amongst players off-list there is at least 1 scum or cult, unless some town player has lied about their roll

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Could just be 3 scum and a cult though, then with 4 outed we still may not have a large enough poe to guarantee scum is among the "off list" roles

[cyrus62]

Could just be 3 scum and a cult though, then with 4 outed we still may not have a large enough poe to guarantee scum is among the "off list" roles

Like I said I'm a vt which is why I said its off the list.

[SirCakez]

MegAzumarill, as the cult leader, would not have outed it. Could be scum using cult as a red herring but I think it's more likely there is a cult leader.

This is a good point I didn't think of
I think MegA is probably just group scum

[SirCakez]

Actually can mega get prodded or replaced

[SirCakez]

the mechanical talk is killing me

VOTE: dwlee
Last few pages gave me a gross feeling about them

[Dwlee99]

You didn't give thoughts on James besides not liking that I voted them

[T3]

Tbh either my townplay is abysmal and I'm limbait or I'm less limbait and have okay reads. This is of the former.

[redtea]

kyouko #855
oooh okay. That's genius.
Okay yeah. Crazy if true. Seemed like a good idea for (an) investigative PR(s) to check James already- now a doubly good idea.
Except not Parity Cop, inc he got ugly modifier, is what you said- restating here for convenience.

i do think james and redtea are on the same team though.

it's not hard to guess why you think this but tell me why

[redtea]

oof

I dont think you're scummy or culty either fwiw

heyyyyy

Tbh either my townplay is abysmal and I'm limbait or I'm less limbait and have okay reads. This is of the former.

ur doing fine shush

[redtea]

if no one's been hammered by the time we have 24 hours left yall are gonna sheep me on cyrus right?

[Cook]

MegAzumarill has been prodded according to my V/LA rules. She has (expired on 2021-08-27 15:44:15) to respond within 24 hours of the prod or I will replace her.

[SirCakez]

You didn't give thoughts on James besides not liking that I voted them

Is this @ me?

[Dwlee99]

You didn't give thoughts on James besides not liking that I voted them

Is this @ me?

Yes

[T3]

Please can we just vote cakez already

[cyrus62]

Please can we just vote cakez already

i think cakes is pro team so i anit voting them.

[cyrus62]

people im willing to vote . dw,t3,james or nero.