Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.11

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

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Thor Ragnarok [5]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus, PenguinPower

House [3]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Harvey and Haley

Miss Midnight [2]:

Thor Ragnarok, Bee

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

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[PenguinPower]

because you never do

[PenguinPower]

foiled by p-edits

[Bee]

This is Town Thor.

As scum he suddenly turned passive and boring in our game.

I don't believe he would act differently if he is scum from start.

^ This is true. He was having fun and doing his own thing when he was town in this game. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12932079

[Harvey and Haley]

Meanwhile I can fully agree with house after the gamma spat, using ongoing is a dirty tactic because frankly we can go look for games and it brings OGI into this game. I don't see what the counterwagon has to do with this?

TLDR: Laziness and cruising along.

I see you respond only when prompted. I don't see you following up which is my main beef. You're asking questions, and seemingly doing nothing. It's looking busy while doing nothing.

My original mention of the counterwagon referred to the one on Enchant. At the time he posted, in the same page, there were multiple votes on Enchant, so it was a little odd that he popped in with a Manatee vote without mention of Enchant, the counterwagon.

In most cases where I don't visibly act on responses to me, it's because there's no game-progressing reason to. Again, if you think I'm asking empty questions - shoot me specifics and what kind of follow-up you'd expect with them.

I guess you're town!

You're goddamn right I am! Hell yeah!

Would be cool to see s_s have a vote somewhere....very cool

Literally typed "What would it cost me to have you vote somewhere, Something_Smart" and deleted it


-Harvey

[PenguinPower]

2 seconds....damn dats. that was impressive.

[Something_Smart]

Oh sick, Flea is town.

[Flea The Magician]

Enchant + Thor is a great place to start.

Happy to join you on a Thor train.

This is my playstyle

Odd jump but indulge me.

Why would I be reading you solely on playstyle?

[House]

This is Town Thor.

As scum he suddenly turned passive and boring in our game.

I don't believe he would act differently if he is scum from start.

Actually, not a terrible take.

[Harvey and Haley]

I'm 90% confident Thor is partially memeing and chuckling at how people respond to his posts

-Harvey

[House]

boop?

You're town!

[Bee]

OK this is absolutely busywork and some weird ass BS.

Do you think it's scummy?

I'm starting to lean that way.

I love mech spec, and if you look at the style of games I play I tend to go for mech heavy or bastard games. Looking at the games I've run (all 2 of them - still need an outside reviewer for the second) you can see I love mech weirdness.

If you want me to get down and dirty in the mech here, I can and I will, but the conclsion is always going to be the same. The human element alone here is enough to throw the spec out of the window.

I can tell you what my options were that I was going to choose from, and few people will actually believe me because of how I approach these games.

I was looking at PGO, Vengeful and Universial Backup. I'm not going to say what I actually selected but I was looking at those as I sent my number in.

Wait what does your role and what you wanted have anything to do with this, like, offhandedly bringing this up?

Your vote on Thor was :/ to me because I see him as you in Yin and Yang where everyone jumped on you for not playing the game the same way. What differences do you see in your play there and what’s happening now?

[Flea The Magician]

Meanwhile I can fully agree with house after the gamma spat, using ongoing is a dirty tactic because frankly we can go look for games and it brings OGI into this game. I don't see what the counterwagon has to do with this?

TLDR: Laziness and cruising along.

I see you respond only when prompted. I don't see you following up which is my main beef. You're asking questions, and seemingly doing nothing. It's looking busy while doing nothing.

My original mention of the counterwagon referred to the one on Enchant. At the time he posted, in the same page, there were multiple votes on Enchant, so it was a little odd that he popped in with a Manatee vote without mention of Enchant, the counterwagon.

In most cases where I don't visibly act on responses to me, it's because there's no game-progressing reason to. Again, if you think I'm asking empty questions - shoot me specifics and what kind of follow-up you'd expect with them.
-Harvey

I'll go back and have a look at that, and I may not know who you are but I fully know you have the capability to create content and generate it where needed.
Thats why I'm hard-engaging you here. Because I want to squeeze it out of you.

[Harvey and Haley]

Sheeping Something_Smart
UNVOTE:

-Harvey

[House]

Sheeping Something_Smart
UNVOTE:

-Harvey

I don't believe you believe that.

[Something_Smart]

Literally typed "What would it cost me to have you vote somewhere, Something_Smart" and deleted it

There is usually not much of a downside to voting, aside from outside quickhammer chances and people assuming the vote indicates a scumread and asking me to justify it.

But I've been asked this before. Usually the reasons are something something wagon analysis something accountability but I've never seen anyone draw any productive information out of a vote that I placed on request.

[Something_Smart]

Harvey is Auro right? If so he's just teasing me.

[Bee]

:< I do like S_S right now too tbh which is weird because I don’t think I know how to read him well.

[Something_Smart]

You can read me 100% by checking your scum PT and seeing that I am not listed there

[Harvey and Haley]

Usually the reasons are something something wagon analysis something accountability but I've never seen anyone draw any productive information out of a vote that I placed on request.

I agree the information gain is little, but your vote would play a part in speeding up the game via pressure - no?

-Harvey (Auro)

[Gamma Emerald]

Is there a particular line of questioning you liked?

not really!! i was just skimming their iso and i was like "i like the amount of question marks in here"

that is very surface level

[Bee]

You can read me 100% by checking your scum PT and seeing that I am not listed there

What’s your read on me?

[Something_Smart]

I'm not convinced that speeding up the game or pressuring are worthy goals. (This is why I vote so little in the first place.)

[Titus]

Did it not bother you the first four times he did that?

That shit was setup spec.

I'm less than clueless about setup spec in this game.

Activity theorizing, however, I'm very familiar with. I'm a spammy motherfucker as either alignment and have always been that way, so it's something i see a lot of discussion about.

:/

I think voting Thor is a bad idea unless someone has a case other than busywork/not normal content. Like, is the information being put forward actually being used maliciously or anything?

Bee, being spammy with no content is suggestive of scum. We don't need an ironclad case D1 just >rand scum.

[Something_Smart]

What’s your read on me?

Moderate scum off of draft position + your posts have done nothing to reverse it.