Open 823 - To Tell The Truth | Game Over

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 3.01

Elimination

With 7 alive, 4 votes are required for elimination.

Kop

(2): goats, T3

Not Voting

(5): Kop, imaginality, Zyla, Not_Mafia, ArcAngel9

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-03 20:00:34).

Mod notes:

Day 3 Begins!

[imaginality]

Kop: who do you think goats's scum buddies are?

[goats]

Kop: who do you think goats's scum buddies are?

I am going to assume that you're trying to play out the day because it is lylo and you're hoping a towny happens to misvote at some point down the line

Don't. It's lylo. The wolf is obvious. End it. If you're town, ending it is to your benefit.

[goats]

We have more than enough time to discussion tomorrow, it won't be lylo tomorrow.

[imaginality]

Kop: who do you think goats's scum buddies are?

I am going to assume that you're trying to play out the day because it is lylo and you're hoping a towny happens to misvote at some point down the line

Don't. It's lylo. The wolf is obvious. End it. If you're town, ending it is to your benefit.

I don't think anyone is voting anyone other than Kop today. I still want to hear from Kop before we eliminate him though.

[goats]

Kop: who do you think goats's scum buddies are?

I am going to assume that you're trying to play out the day because it is lylo and you're hoping a towny happens to misvote at some point down the line

Don't. It's lylo. The wolf is obvious. End it. If you're town, ending it is to your benefit.

I don't think anyone is voting anyone other than Kop today. I still want to hear from Kop before we eliminate him though.

What do you need to hear from an outed wolf? Do you think you will get anything of value? Like, this statements contradict each other

If no one is voting anyone but Kop, what Kop going to do? Fight? No. He's not going to give more spew

And besides this, I thought people weren't going to vote Hockey yesterday

I was wrong on that, I guess, and he died

I'd rather us not lose like that

[T3]

Oh wait it's elo
Meh Kop is still scum.

[imaginality]

We have more than enough time to discussion tomorrow, it won't be lylo tomorrow.

Oh true, in my head I was thinking we're stuck in x-lo throughout now but you're right, a Kop scum flip means we get two more days minimum.

[T3]

Scum goats has no reason to locktown me so early.

[goats]

if you're town, Imaginality, I'll re-consider you tomorrow

I obviously dislike the Hockey wagon, but I also believe that wolves would be more interested in bussing Kop than to stack 3 people onto Hockey

I'll think about it

But I'm alright proceeding this with a NM, maybe Arc, elim. I'd need to consider Zyla, I haven't read their progression on the Hocket vote, and I disliked their lack of engagement with what I cased before

[goats]

I consider this post a town slip btw

"Oh wait it's elo"

So I'm still town reading T3

[imaginality]

Kop: who do you think goats's scum buddies are?

I am going to assume that you're trying to play out the day because it is lylo and you're hoping a towny happens to misvote at some point down the line

Don't. It's lylo. The wolf is obvious. End it. If you're town, ending it is to your benefit.

It's obviously obvious to you because assuming you're town, Kop is 100% guaranteed scum by the night result.
It's like... 85% Kop scum 15% you from my point of view. I've liked your play nearly all game but I am aware you're smart and smart scum can play the long game. And I really don't like being pressured to quick vote.

Also I had these reasons for drawing things out a little:

I don't think anyone is voting anyone other than Kop today. I still want to hear from Kop before we eliminate him though.

What do you need to hear from an outed wolf? Do you think you will get anything of value? Like, this statements contradict each other

If no one is voting anyone but Kop, what Kop going to do? Fight? No. He's not going to give more spew

I was waiting for two reasons:

1. I thought there was a chance Kop would try to counter argue and whatever he said could have helped give additional clues as to who his buddies are.

2. I thought there was a good chance his buddies would bus him hard and early so I was seeing if someone else would swoop in and vote him to try to get extra cred for it.

It doesn't look like the first is happening, but it was worth a shot. As for the second, just T3 leapt on it so far. So I'm intrigued that you're reading him as town. I think he's more likely to be one of the remaining scum (who I think were both on the cyrus and Hockey wagons - ie. two of {Zyla, Arc, NM, T3}.

And besides this, I thought people weren't going to vote Hockey yesterday

I was wrong on that, I guess, and he died

I'd rather us not lose like that

I've played games where I rushed to vote what I felt was a sure thing in xlo and lost for town because of that. I don't want to do the same here.

[imaginality]

Ooh, I was making an assumption there and should increase those odds on both of you slightly. It's not either-or... there's a chance you're scumbuddies...

[ArcAngel9]

VOTE: Kop

Let this game moving, i want some scum flip now!!

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Kop

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 3.02 (FINAL)

Elimination

With 7 alive, 4 votes are required for elimination.

Kop

(4): goats, T3, ArcAngel9, Not_Mafia

<== HAMMER

Not Voting

(3): Kop, imaginality, Zyla

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-03 20:00:34).

Mod notes:

Day 3

Begins!

ENDS! An Elimination has been achieved.

[Marashu]

Kop was a

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

Night 3 begins. Mafia have (expired on 2021-08-30 13:07:57) to Tell the Truth*.

*And if you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Marashu]

Day 4 begins.

OR
goats is

TOWN

| imaginality is

TOWN

Official Vote Count 3.00

Elimination

With 6 alive, 4 votes are required for elimination.

Not Voting

(6): goats, T3, imaginality, Zyla, Not_Mafia, ArcAngel9

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-06 13:07:32).

Mod notes:

Day 4 Begins!

[Not_Mafia]

So we go between T3 and Zyla today right?

[Zyla]

Alright, so, at least one of NM and AA is town, and at least one of goats and imaginality is town.
That means that most likely there's scum between me and T3
VOTE: T3

[Zyla]

So we go between T3 and Zyla today right?

That's my thought according to setup, and T3 was already in my scum reads, so it works, but otherwise Arc is also questionable.

Tbh, I do not like at all how quickly Day 3 went by.
We got scum with the hammer, but we didn't actually give them any chance to contribute to the thread and slip up somehow
Imaginality gets town points for not voting Kop before he showed up, Arc loses points for taking them to E1 (especially since she's modded games with him in them, and thus knew his hammer rule).

[ArcAngel9]

What are you saying?

I am the first in order on day 1, that makes me town.

How is Imaginality is clear? Goats is obviously town becuz between goats and Kop, one of them was scum, since kop flipped scum goats is most likely town.

[Not_Mafia]

What are you saying?

I am the first in order on day 1, that makes me town.

How is Imaginality is clear? Goats is obviously town becuz between goats and Kop, one of them was scum, since kop flipped scum goats is most likely town.

The order is irrelevant

[T3]

Correct, you are indeed almost confirmed scum to me. Unless goats is the ballsiest scum ever. VOTE: zyal

[Zyla]

How is Imaginality is clear? Goats is obviously town becuz between goats and Kop, one of them was scum, since kop flipped scum goats is most likely town.

Nobody is cleared yet.
"ArcAngel is Town or Not_Mafia is Town" is a True statement, and "goats is Town or imaginality is Town" is a True statement.
For the first to be true, at least one of the two of you is Town, for the second, at least one of goats and imaginality is town.

I do agree that goats is most likely town, which means that either you (ArcAngel), NM, or imaginality is T3's partner.
If I'm mistaken about T3, then I would be pretty sure that the scum team is AA & Ima