In post 1420, House wrote:Unwilling to consider a world where he's town. If you have stated such a possibility, I've missed it.In post 1418, Miss Midnight wrote:2) What do you mean by me being "invested" in scumreading Gamma?
In post 1303, Miss Midnight wrote:I'm not so arrogant as to be unable to consider different worlds in which I may not be right. I can scumread Thor but consider a world in which he's town but you're scum.And vice versa.
Continued bad faith. I've already stated the derogatory "observation" had nothing to do with my remark.In post 1423, Miss Midnight wrote:Do you really think that telling someone that I think something they said was town indicative after directly telling them that I think they have an overinflated sense of importance constitutes an attempt at "leashing"?
By the way, just to skip ahead a step in this conversation, if what this is about is primarily related to me stating that something you did was town indicative despite already seeming to townread you and you thinkingIn post 1423, Miss Midnight wrote:I have no idea, that's exactly why I was asking you. So maybe let me ask a different question. Do you really think that telling someone that I think something they said was town indicativeIn post 1420, House wrote:This is a bad faith question, and supports what i said about your interactions.In post 1418, Miss Midnight wrote:1) What do you mean by "leashed"? And how does telling someone directly that I think they have an overinflated sense of importance constitute it?
My leash comment had nothing to do with your derogatory remarks. It was about the "town indicative" bit. I don't see how you would even think about around the question you did, here. Who the fuck considers being insulted a tool to control that player?afterdirectly telling them that I think they have an overinflated sense of importance constitutes an attempt at "leashing"? I just want to hear you clarify exactly what you're saying about what I said there. My judgment of what someone would say to someone when attempting to "leash" or pocket them seems to be quite different than yours.
And, for the record, as bad as it sounds it wasn't meant to be derogatory when I said that. It was purely a statement of my personal judgement that you were misperceiving an interaction related to yourself and seemed to consistently perceive interactions that involved yourself as being more important to other people than I perceived them as being. Obviously I recognize that connotatively what I said is still probably a negative thing to say, just clarifying my intentions.
In post 1426, House wrote:Continued bad faith. I've already stated the derogatory "observation" had nothing to do with my remark.In post 1423, Miss Midnight wrote:Do you really think that telling someone that I think something they said was town indicative after directly telling them that I think they have an overinflated sense of importance constitutes an attempt at "leashing"?
In post 1423, Miss Midnight wrote:I just want to hear you clarify exactly what you're saying about what I said there.
Okay.In post 1427, Miss Midnight wrote:I would say that I still think it's worth pointing out particularly alignment indicative things when you see them, even if they happen to already align with a read that you have. For one, it's useful for other people who may see it and come to agree with you. For two, it can help make it clearer to other people where your read is coming from and how the strength of it changes as the game progresses.
It's not just town indicative... and we much as it perturbs me that you made this remark, I also think it's something you'd have been more likely to bring up in the scum PT if you were red.In post 1298, Miss Midnight wrote:I think you're overstating or overthinking your own importance/ the importance of events surrounding you when it comes to the thread at large. I think that this is probably town indicative.
EditIn post 1431, House wrote:It's not just town indicative... and as* much as it perturbs me that you made this remark, I also think it's something you'd have been more likely to bring up in the scum PT if you were red.In post 1298, Miss Midnight wrote:I think you're overstating or overthinking your own importance/ the importance of events surrounding you when it comes to the thread at large. I think that this is probably town indicative.
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I'm sure you got quite elaborate.In post 1430, Miss Midnight wrote:That isn't something that I haven't elaborated on.
I feel like the fact it took so long to get you to take a clear stance on me vs. Thor is indicative that you are scum trying to keep options openIn post 1424, Miss Midnight wrote:???In post 1421, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well just think about what it took to get that out of youIn post 1409, Miss Midnight wrote:Yeah. I think you're scummier.In post 1311, Gamma Emerald wrote:okay, but it feels like she's putting more emphasis on the gamma!scum read than the thor!scum read
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What does this have to do with "skirting around the chance [you're] town"?
That kinda raised my eyebrow as well, but it didn't particularly strike me as a maneuver one buddy would use towards another.In post 1290, Miss Midnight wrote:House's vote on you especially seemed pretty explicitly to be non-game relevant. So Thor's following House onto a vote on you without any additional comment indicating some other reason for the vote or the timing is noteworthy in itself.
Saying that I think you're scummier was never a secret, and it doesn't suddenly mean that my options are suddenly closed. There's just no motivation for me as scum to do anything you're talking about.In post 1435, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like the fact it took so long to get you to take a clear stance on me vs. Thor is indicative that you are scum trying to keep options open
I'm not. Never said I was. Pretty explicitly said I wasn't.In post 1436, House wrote:That kinda raised my eyebrow as well, but it didn't particularly strike me as a maneuver one buddy would use towards another.In post 1290, Miss Midnight wrote:House's vote on you especially seemed pretty explicitly to be non-game relevant. So Thor's following House onto a vote on you without any additional comment indicating some other reason for the vote or the timing is noteworthy in itself.
I could see logicking them to be SvT or TvT,but i don't see why you'd humor the theory of SvS.
To be clear, this isn't me declaring them TvS, just stating that I don't need to pre-flip fit together every scumread into one world.In post 1303, Miss Midnight wrote:Why does it matter? If you're trying to argue that me thinking this should lead to me believing that you're more likely to be town, I'm not so arrogant as to be unable to consider different worlds in which I may not be right. I can scumread Thor but consider a world in which he's town but you're scum. And vice versa.Not all of your scumreads need to be fit together as partners at all times without any flips whatsoever, that would be a wildly ineffective way to play the game.
Yeah but, of your scumread associatives don't make sense, that's a red flag that you're on the wrong track.In post 1438, Miss Midnight wrote:I'm not. Never said I was. Pretty explicitly said I wasn't.In post 1436, House wrote:That kinda raised my eyebrow as well, but it didn't particularly strike me as a maneuver one buddy would use towards another.In post 1290, Miss Midnight wrote:House's vote on you especially seemed pretty explicitly to be non-game relevant. So Thor's following House onto a vote on you without any additional comment indicating some other reason for the vote or the timing is noteworthy in itself.
I could see logicking them to be SvT or TvT,but i don't see why you'd humor the theory of SvS.
To be clear, this isn't me declaring them TvS, just stating that I don't need to pre-flip fit together every scumread into one world.In post 1303, Miss Midnight wrote:Why does it matter? If you're trying to argue that me thinking this should lead to me believing that you're more likely to be town, I'm not so arrogant as to be unable to consider different worlds in which I may not be right. I can scumread Thor but consider a world in which he's town but you're scum. And vice versa.Not all of your scumreads need to be fit together as partners at all times without any flips whatsoever, that would be a wildly ineffective way to play the game.
I think this is a pretty good post and a more convincing reason for Scum!Gamma than any other that I've seen put forth so far.In post 1430, Miss Midnight wrote:That isn't something that I haven't elaborated on. Actually not trying to sound snarky here, but you can just read my ISO.
To bring up something new: self-serving though it may sound, I do think that his recent posts about me are genuinely just sort of bizarre in a way that resembles flailing. Again, someone correct me if there really is something I'm missing, but I think that Bee pretty much read the situation exactly in 1309 and most of the stuff Gamma has been saying has just been non-sequiturs.
Shenanigans. I've seen games in day 4 before the d1 deadline expired.In post 1444, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:This is MS - we don't put people to E-1 until 3 hours before deadline
