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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:58 am

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In post 2546, Aristeia wrote:can you give me the case for RCE scum?
I already posted my reasons earlier. When RCE called me toxic.
And that is also combined with the lack of interest in voting RCE yesterday from most players.
My image of yesterday as being town mostly voting town also fits with the image of an mafia team that had an relatively inactive player that sat things out- I,e, Emperor.
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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:00 am

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In post 2550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:image of an mafia team that had an relatively inactive player that sat things out- I,e, Emperor.
Datisi and RCE also fit this for the record.
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:00 am

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Retti part of Datisi hydra*
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:01 am

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In post 2550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I already posted my reasons earlier. When RCE called me toxic.
And that is also combined with the lack of interest in voting RCE yesterday from most players.
My image of yesterday as being town mostly voting town also fits with the image of an mafia team that had an relatively inactive player that sat things out- I,e, Emperor.

There were three wagons yesterday at EOD.

They all flipped town.

Your solution is "let's open door #4"

link me the case I'll read it.
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:02 am

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In post 2549, Aristeia wrote:I don't understand your overconfidence when we've literally hit 0 scum and every wagon yesterday was on a town player.
Doesn't this just have to do with playstyle?
And if i really was so overconfident i would probably have voted RCE this very second, potential scum quickhammer be damned. I'm just very vocal about my opinions, which i always have been.
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:03 am

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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:03 am

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In post 2554, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Doesn't this just have to do with playstyle?
And if i really was so overconfident i would probably have voted RCE this very second, potential scum quickhammer be damned. I'm just very vocal about my opinions, which i always have been.
Do you really not have doubts as a town player when you get things wrong over and over?
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:06 am

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Not really.
I mean i've wanted RCE since day 2, and i haven't seen that flip yet so i don't feel completely wrong. More that i've been distracted by Mastina cases.
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:09 am

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My issue here is we are locktowning the person that gave us 3 of our misflips.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:10 am

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And any meta that is that easily verifiable is arguably a trust tell. I haven't read any of the meta arguments though and I don't plan on it.
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:13 am

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mastina's extreme conviction is either a last ditch pocket attempt or +town.
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:17 am

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Well given she wants to kill me uhhh
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 2515, Green Cap Boys wrote:
In post 2508, RCEnigma wrote:Unless the team is me+Mastina+whoever, then you could argue scum actively moved against my elim for preservation instead of changing gears for the win.
Okay so riddle me this why does any scumteam choose to preserve you in this game when TLDNE is publicly said to have been pained and that could easily have opened the door for a scum win on night 2 (one I would absolutely be pursuing)

-R
who pained tldne? i thought FC and I were the only claimed shots n1.
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:18 am

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I'm a swing voter :0
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:07 am

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Can you all just claim?
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:10 am

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Ikr
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:12 am

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All I had was my pain potion.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:50 am

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In post 2521, Green Cap Boys wrote:
In post 2495, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think Datisi could in fact be scum here, because with townreading Mastina and T3 it really doesn’t leave much other options. I also dislike Retti’s outburst yesterday because it was just blatantly bad sportsmanship behaviour and i don’t see the town motivation in it.
You should probably learn to separate personal distaste from things that are actually scummy

-R
In post 2522, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you claiming it was townie?
For you to say "screw you all" and walk away?
i think it was very clearly not what was claimed there

like, i'm pretty sure norwee is a player that understands quick reactions and being emotional and whatnot (i think it was discussed on d1 here, but fuck if i remember anymore), so the fact that someone had an outburst, claiming it's scummy because bad sportsmanship + no town motivation for it is very hmm. like those two things don't imply scumminess which i feel is something that norwee should like. know.

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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:04 am

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In post 2539, Dwlee99 wrote:If the team is like t3/norwee/mastina I'll be mad
this is actually what's going through my head right now

not t3 necessarily, but i'm genuinely wondering if norwee/mastina can be paired up here. both are obviously angling towards rce, both are sinking my slot for ??? reasons after apparently townreading us all game, and norwee's shade towards retti doesn't feel like a natural conclusion

that said, as much as i hate second hand meta, it's probably not a good idea for me to get locked onto this read without even *trying* to figure the apparently obvious meta differences out. we'll see if i'll have enough willpower for that, though.

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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 2568, Green Cap Boys wrote:
In post 2539, Dwlee99 wrote:If the team is like t3/norwee/mastina I'll be mad
this is actually what's going through my head right now

not t3 necessarily, but i'm genuinely wondering if norwee/mastina can be paired up here. both are obviously angling towards rce, both are sinking my slot for ??? reasons after apparently townreading us all game, and norwee's shade towards retti doesn't feel like a natural conclusion

that said, as much as i hate second hand meta, it's probably not a good idea for me to get locked onto this read without even *trying* to figure the apparently obvious meta differences out. we'll see if i'll have enough willpower for that, though.

-D
Please try to figure it out cause I have no desire to
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:16 am

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In post 2475, mastina wrote:For the record, I DID notice the contrast between Datisi in this game and Datisi in tris's mini normal that I designed. (I was, after all, reading along.) Datisi's effort in that game was evident in a way absent from this game, but I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that the reason Datisi wasn't as hardcore overdrive in THIS game was due to him being hardcore overdrive in THAT game.

I still am willing to give that benefit of the doubt to some degree, but I admit that there is some caution behind it. I can't blindly beyond-any-shadow-of-a-doubt townbin Datisi because the contrast between the two games IS rather stark, and I cannot afford to ignore it even if I believe that the contrast was not indicative of an alignment but rather indicative of which game he was most focused on. I still think Datisi is town and that the difference was precisely what I say here, a focus on that game meaning no focus on this one, but I cannot have blind 100% faith in that assumption as it's at least possible the difference is due to alignment even if I currently believe otherwise.
this is also someth i want to respond to. while i definitely was more focused on mini normal 2226 than on this, it wasn't because i was just focusing on that game and that that left me no time for this one. i've been having absolute shit past couple of weeks, which means that my mafia motivation is low. if my mafia motivation is low, that manifests in a way where i'm less active in games that are more willpower-consuming. 2226 was fun, i felt like i had a good grasp on the game, i believed in things i was saying, and i was plainly having a good time. this game? it feels soul sucking. dunno if it's the bad reads, or the replacements, or what, but i can't get into it. even rn, at 100+ pages in lylo, i feel about the same security in my reads than i did just out of rvs.

to save you the trouble of research, yes, i am in general much easier demotivated in games where i am scum than games where i am town. or more accurately, i need more motivation to keep up in them, which i would very much be lacking with how my irl's been going recently. yes, i am aware that looks bad for me here, it is what it is. it has happened in a few town games before i think, but it has also happened as scum, so. think what you will.

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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 2569, Dwlee99 wrote:Please try to figure it out cause I have no desire to
makes the two of us

do we have a compilation of all claims from d2 and d3? i feel like it might be useful, considering that (1) there's guaranteed a lot of scum on the wagon of the townie that was publicly claimed to be pained (2) there were "only" two kills last night

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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:42 am

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Only me and mastina have even claimed actions from last night
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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:42 am

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I do not want to compile before claims because I want scum to have to work to make sure their claims aren't going to be shown fake
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:54 am

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Should I claim?
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