mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

[Dwlee99]

No, pain potions first

[Dwlee99]

Pain > Anything else > Jailkeep is the order

[T3]

ehhhhh

[Dwlee99]

People not claiming faster is killing my vibe

[T3]

Trapped in claiming purgatory, Dwlee screams into the lonely void.

[Aristeia]

Who are we waiting for to claim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I did nothing last night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I lowkey hoped some scum would fake claim i poisoned or something so i could 1v1 them to death. But no such luck it seems.

[Dwlee99]

I did nothing last night.

You were just supposed to say you didn't pain

[Dwlee99]

Who are we waiting for to claim?

I don't think you claimed your action last night so you

[Aristeia]

I didn't use any pain potions.

I have one pain potion in my inventory.

[Dwlee99]

Okay now if anyone used harmography or doctor you should claim it now

[NorwegianboyEE]

This way of claiming is taking so long.

[T3]

I did not doc or harmo.

[Green Cap Boys]

i love how apparently nobody even noticed we didn't claim

didn't use any of pain/harm/doc last night

-D

[T3]

pain

[T3]

So...

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

votey 3.11

not voting (7):

RCEnigma, Green Cap Boys, T3, Aristeia, NorwegianboyEE, Dwlee99, mastina

with 7 alive, it takes 4 to sqump. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-08 13:20:00)

modorator notes

• just going to clarify that mafia wins when they control half of the vote during a day phase

[T3]

Can I just vote?

[mastina]

And any meta that is that easily verifiable is arguably a trust tell.

Trust tells require deliberate enforcing. As in, deliberately going out of your way to do X as alignment Y but never do X as alignment Z.

My townplay vs. scumplay is not deliberately enforced. It's just that obvious.

Well given she wants to kill me uhhh

I don't want to kill you anymore!

While I'm fairly certain there's one scum in {Dwlee, GCB} (only way there isn't is if one of Norwee/T3 are scum) because I think that scum desperately want me to be a mislim candidate, I explicitly don't think that scum doubles down on that angle--as in, don't think that you'd both be scum. I'm pretty sure that it comes from one town with the scum hoping that town votes wrong in lylo.

both are sinking my slot for ??? reasons after apparently townreading us all game,

That's what happens when previous assumptions of the gamestate get proven fundamentally wrong, combined with process of elimination factoring in. TLDNE was not in fact scum. Your push on them was one of the main reasons for townreading your slot. You can of course still be wrong-town, but with so few town left alive, POE means that it is less likely than it was before. And while your posts did look town at the time, they're not as town-looking as at least one towngame, so there is a fundamental need to reconsider and look at the game again without the bias of previous assumptions.

Anyway I'm going to be starting a reread now, will keep notes as I go.

[mastina]

Do you

(ta vera)

always catch up like this, rather than waiting to read a little ahead to see if your queries have already been answered?

Btw this vaguely does look like scum-scum distancing/theater to me (which would implicate their replacements, RCE and Aristeia), but obviously, not sure about that.

[mastina]

on the contrary, i find that i confbias myself into seeing townies as towny when i'm scum.

this could be what The Emperor is doing.
VOTE: The Emperor

Incorrect
Reads are hard and fast here when Order 66 is on the horizon

what do you mean by that?

I like pushing any reads or thoughts I have out, also helps getting the game going early

do you have any scumreads? do you actually scumread me?

No scumreads yet

I didn't like the way you started catching up but seems to be nai after a quick meta check. Your reason for voting me is okay, even if incorrect

This is also triggering my "scum theater" vibecheck.

[mastina]

VOTE: ta vera
Cereal Vote.

{Green Cap Boys The Emperor/Aristeia}


NorwegianboyEE


{mastina}

cass.bruant/T3


{Dwlee}

ta vera/RCEnigma

ta vera/RCE was a Bingle suspicion. Granted,

Mastina
NorwegianboyEE



{Green Cap Boys, The Emperor/Aristeia}

T3

RCE
Dwlee

Was reevaluated to be a bit higher (fourth from bottom, but two names below RCE are now dead), but still looks like a Bingle-endorsed suspicion overall.

[T3]

Do you

(ta vera)

always catch up like this, rather than waiting to read a little ahead to see if your queries have already been answered?

Btw this vaguely does look like scum-scum distancing/theater to me (which would implicate their replacements, RCE and Aristeia), but obviously, not sure about that.

OH
I MADE A POST SAYING THE WORDING OF SOMEONE'S POST FELT WEIRD BUT IN A WAY I COULDN'T DESCRIBE AND NOW I GET WHY

[mastina]

So you were gonna outline the past games, not the current games, sure

This push from Emperor feels a bit insincere against Green Cap Boys in a vaguely partner-indicative way. It feels like a push meant to make a push but for it to not really be a push. Granted, this is more evidence of Aristeia being scum more than it is of GCB being scum because it looks like a scum post regardless of GCB's alignment, it's just that to my mental math, there's a ~60-75% chance that it was a scum post made about a scumbuddy.

does anyone want to vote The Emperor with me?

How do you feel about 82 or 85 regarding your town read confirming biased theory

This, for comparison: looks more like the ~75-90% scumbuddy theater interaction (which is to say, it's much stronger).