Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Auro]

Sorry, been very busy day yesterday and likely today too. I'll be back my evening.

[Gamma Emerald]

Or if manatee remains frozen we just vote her out

[Miss Midnight]

That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?

Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?

[the worst]

VOTE: manatee

pedit:

ngl…I really did have homemade sushi for dinner tonight.

thanks for the invite jeez.

[Miss Midnight]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.

Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?

Basically? Yeah.

It wouldn't matter if both Enchant and Gamma were town, would it?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

[the worst]

i don't super follow/want to get deep into the convo re. Flea, i am just not picking up what faer posts are putting down.

[Something_Smart]

Sorry, been very busy day yesterday and likely today too. I'll be back my evening.

Omg guys Auro was super active and then super inactive... he must be scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?

Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?

I’m not asking how it affects your read on me, rather I’m asking the reverse, how your read on me informs your view of the Flea/Enchant relationship

[Something_Smart]

Wait, but he also pagetopped.

Shit, now I don't know what to do.

[the worst]

only scum have things to do irl. down with auro!

[Miss Midnight]

I disagree in the case of Manatee. Having a way to get her back into the game and being reminded of why I TR her potentially is useful for me at least. Worst case Manatee's frozen still and I return to one of the big two and see if people are willing to let them build up again.

I think that we've already seen a demonstration early on in this game that a wagon on Manatee doesn't seem to serve to get her more invested in the game. Especially one that people explicitly basically say is a pressure wagon.

I agree that you can always just switch your vote again later. But there's still an opportunity cost, I'd say.

[the worst]

ss do you feel like you should be readable so far?

[Miss Midnight]

That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?

Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?

I’m not asking how it affects your read on me, rather I’m asking the reverse, how your read on me informs your view of the Flea/Enchant relationship

Yeah, again I think I want to say it changes nothing? Doesn't really have all that much to do with you I don't think.

[Gamma Emerald]

ngl if enchant is town that bee post is nagl, even more so if manatee is scum

[Cat Scratch Fever]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.

Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?

Basically? Yeah.

It wouldn't matter if both Enchant and Gamma were town, would it?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Suppose Enchant & Gamma were TvT wagons, both at 6 votes

Scum Flea can just vote whichever miselim wagon fae wants to go through

A hypothetical scenario in which scum flea and enchant town can coexist

But I guess you'd have to think Gamma could be town in this scenario

[Cat Scratch Fever]

ngl if enchant is town that bee post is nagl, even more so if manatee is scum

What Bee post? I don't see one that fits this bill.

[Miss Midnight]

Suppose Enchant & Gamma were TvT wagons, both at 6 votes

Scum Flea can just vote whichever miselim wagon fae wants to go through

A hypothetical scenario in which scum flea and enchant town can coexist

But I guess you'd have to think Gamma could be town in this scenario

I do think that Gamma could be town? Or rather, as I think I said verbatim and had a whole argument about earlier, I'm not so arrogant as to be incapable of considering worlds in which I'm wrong. Interesting that people seem to have that perception of me, though.

In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon? As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.

[Bee]

I disagree in the case of Manatee. Having a way to get her back into the game and being reminded of why I TR her potentially is useful for me at least. Worst case Manatee's frozen still and I return to one of the big two and see if people are willing to let them build up again.

I think that we've already seen a demonstration early on in this game that a wagon on Manatee doesn't seem to serve to get her more invested in the game. Especially one that people explicitly basically say is a pressure wagon.

I agree that you can always just switch your vote again later. But there's still an opportunity cost, I'd say.

The hope is that a later hour and explicit need for something to bring her in that it does something. I don't think there will be an issue rebuilding what was there previously and if there is there is probably an issue unearthed from that that can be explored. I think the cost is not that great!!

[PenguinPower]

Wait, but he also pagetopped.

Shit, now I don't know what to do.

<3

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I do think that Gamma could be town? Or rather, as I think I said verbatim and had a whole argument about earlier, I'm not so arrogant as to be incapable of considering worlds in which I'm wrong. Interesting that people seem to have that perception of me, though.

In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon?

As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.

Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.

One reason would be optics - one can't be seen as willing to go with any miselim.

[the worst]

i wouldn't call midnight arrogant, so much as like.. confident? assertive/projecting confidence? i don't get the impression they're steering the game so much as i have a lesser gravitational pull and am drawn into their collected demeanour.
not sure if this helps anyone, i adore waxing poetic.

[Gamma Emerald]

In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon? As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.

To make Enchant look like a partner, or just to avoid looking like scum riding the middle?
ninja’d by CSF lol

[PenguinPower]

You are my nicer self duck.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.

This is kinda why I’m suspicious of MM, some of what she’s posted feels this way but other things don’t entirely line up with it and that disconnect in how I perceive her faith in her read of me feels scum-indicative.

[the worst]

Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.

This is kinda why I’m suspicious of MM, some of what she’s posted feels this way but other things don’t entirely line up with it and that disconnect in how I perceive her faith in her read of me feels scum-indicative.

this actually makes a lot of sense.