Newbie 2076 [Game Over]

[StrangeMatter]

Especially with how few reads there are on T3.

[Ythan]

This seems like the least useful time to say that.

[MargotRosa]

VOTE: margot to the rosa

Honestly, given that I was the instigator of the final push to vote out LQ d1, you going straight to voting for me only increases my suspicions of you lol

Given that it's between T3, Roden, and Strange, that T3 was the last to vote for LQ, that T3's towniness has been mostly contingent on people's now disproven assumptions over who was Doctor, and that it would be very funny to me personally if both of my main scumreads on d1 were bang on:

VOTE: T3

[GrandpaMo]

rip. i tried to save u alstro. u should have let me claim honestly -- i would have made everyone pivot of u

Didn't want to say anything yesterday, but if you're town, scum would've already known that you weren't Doc since we know your slot wasn't online at all during Night 1. Regardless I'm not sure why you'd expect scum to buy that you'd openly claim Doc for no reason?

what

so im confirmed town from ur pov? because i wasnt online during the night ?

Grandpa please read my posts. I said it was impossible for you to be Doc, I don't know how you interpreted that as you being conftown.

because i wouldnt be here as scum and there would have been a nk if i wasnt online no?

[MargotRosa]

Ok, actually no, I've gone back through the ISOs for d1, and it has to be strange. T3 is a distant second, and Roden is lock town for me. For whatever reason, I thought I remembered T3 being kinder to LQ and insisting they were town (which did happen, but way less than I thought).

Strange, however, barely interacted with LQ at all except briefly, and when they did vote for LQ 583 it was guarded, and made a very big point of hedging and giving LQ a way to actually argue their way out of it (which they didn't do, and got zucced as a result)

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Strange

[GrandpaMo]

This seems like the least useful time to say that.

btw lame play from you ythan. i highly suggest fake claiming tracked on either rosa or t3 lol

and get to reaction test them

[GrandpaMo]

Ok, actually no, I've gone back through the ISOs for d1, and it has to be strange. T3 is a distant second, and Roden is lock town for me. For whatever reason, I thought I remembered T3 being kinder to LQ and insisting they were town (which did happen, but way less than I thought).

Strange, however, barely interacted with LQ at all except briefly, and when they did vote for LQ 583 it was guarded, and made a very big point of hedging and giving LQ a way to actually argue their way out of it (which they didn't do, and got zucced as a result)

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Strange

interesting pivot.

[GrandpaMo]

ok also im the actual tracker. thanks for saving my slot ythan. you played a very good roleswap. shows over lets to get the actual biz.

im the actual tracker.

strangematter actually visited the dead person today > that makes them scum ggs.

[MargotRosa]

ok also im the actual tracker. thanks for saving my slot ythan. you played a very good roleswap. shows over lets to get the actual biz.

im the actual tracker.

strangematter actually visited the dead person today > that makes them scum ggs.

Utter malarky

[Ythan]

You never know.

[MargotRosa]

I didn't mean it was a lie. I just mean the game just hit the fan lol

[StrangeMatter]

I find Margot's pivot to be a little off since they're voting me, gives a case, and then doesn't do anything else. So @MargotRosa is that just because you're certain I'm scum? And what will happen if I don't flip red?

[StrangeMatter]

Also I'm noticing a certain parallel from another game, and I hope Ythan also sees this.

[MargotRosa]

I find Margot's pivot to be a little off since they're voting me, gives a case, and then doesn't do anything else. So @MargotRosa is that just because you're certain I'm scum? And what will happen if I don't flip red?

I imagine you would find my case to be a little off.

I spelled it out in my last post: If it was between you, T3, and Roden, you are definitely the scummeist of the three. Out of the three of you, Roden is locktown, and T3's play has been wild, but upon rereading through the ISOs, make sense more as Town than Scum.

That is not the case for you. Therefore I am voting for you.

[T3]

VOTE: strange
So margots pivot is towny

[StrangeMatter]

Well you are completely wrong, much like most people who try to put me as partners throughout my entire experience playing this game.

[T3]

What if roden is scum though

[GrandpaMo]

What if roden is scum though

smh i called roden scum but no one listend and just said they were town with the interactions before hand.

[GrandpaMo]

You never know.

Can you retract now?

I retract my tracked claim of Strange visiting -- That was just a reaction test.

Ythan didn't visit the night kill. They are confirmed VT.

I am the real tracker by the way, if it wasn't obvious through my interactions with Alstro and claiming that PR.

There was a chance where Ythan could have been scum claiming my role, however I checked them now just to make sure.

[StrangeMatter]

Please, just stop adding more confusion into this game GrandpaMo that does nothing, you’re confirmed to pretty much everyone.

[GrandpaMo]

Please, just stop adding more confusion into this game GrandpaMo that does nothing, you’re confirmed to pretty much everyone.

it doesn't matter. if you believe ythan, ythan + me is confirmed.

if you believe me, me + ythan is confirmed.

so it doesn't add confusion. there is no confusion to be added.

im the real tracker here. and i am NOT bsing here. ythan did a brilliant playing coming into day 2. and i softed on day 2 eod as well as clasko breadcrumbing in a unique way. if any one can spot it props to u

[Roden]

Ok fine I'll just claim so we can get T3/Roden to play the game!! I am tracker, im gonna go for the night so i will probs re read game tmr afternoon or smh after work

Anyway.

[Roden]

What if roden is scum though

What if roden is scum though

smh i called roden scum but no one listend and just said they were town with the interactions before hand.

Why do I keep having to restate that it literally can't be me? T3 dies N1 if it's me because I thought he was Doc. This is also why I don't think it's Strange because he kills either T3 or me N1, since he prodded the both of us the most into trying to make us explain what we were doing and assumed we were softing a Doc claim. And I don't think it makes sense for T3 to be scum because of the case I presented earlier.

Day 2 after Alstro claimed my PoE was Egix/Grandpa, but with Egix's green flip and Grandpa cleared by the Tracker, it only leaves Margot for me since I don't think Strange or T3 targets the Tracker slot N1. T3 possibly could have just no killed I guess, but I never no kill N1 and neither does Strange since we both saw Doc softs.

[MargotRosa]

What if roden is scum though

What if roden is scum though

smh i called roden scum but no one listend and just said they were town with the interactions before hand.

Why do I keep having to restate that it literally can't be me? T3 dies N1 if it's me because I thought he was Doc. This is also why I don't think it's Strange because he kills either T3 or me N1, since he prodded the both of us the most into trying to make us explain what we were doing and assumed we were softing a Doc claim. And I don't think it makes sense for T3 to be scum because of the case I presented earlier.

Day 2 after Alstro claimed my PoE was Egix/Grandpa, but with Egix's green flip and Grandpa cleared by the Tracker, it only leaves Margot for me since I don't think Strange or T3 targets the Tracker slot N1. T3 possibly could have just no killed I guess, but I never no kill N1 and neither does Strange since we both saw Doc softs.

Ok, so, most of our logic here lines up, except obviously for you thinking I must be scum, and me thinking it must be Strange. Either way, those are the two options. If you decide to kill me today, kill Strange tomorrow and we 90% win anyway (only doubt right now is Grandpa purely because their gameplay makes exactly 0 sense).

My case is the following:

1) I was the person who cast the first vote in the final push to eliminate LQ, which was the second time I'd voted for them that day. I may be new to forum games, but if I was scum (which I'm not) there is exactly 0 chance that I would bus that aggressively day 1. It would be a bizarre strategy.

2) I think trying to read who scum would target n1, especially after the scum PR died d1, is fraught. Anyone could have ended up panicking and just prayed to get the Tracker kill. At any rate, given that clearly someone acted in that way, I think thinking that prioritising that as a TR over my instigating the kill on LQ d1 is absurd.

[MargotRosa]

You never know.

Can you retract now?

I retract my tracked claim of Strange visiting -- That was just a reaction test.

Ythan didn't visit the night kill. They are confirmed VT.

I am the real tracker by the way, if it wasn't obvious through my interactions with Alstro and claiming that PR.

There was a chance where Ythan could have been scum claiming my role, however I checked them now just to make sure.

This is very quickly turning into "I am Spartacus", except it's just one guy running around, yelling "I am Spartacus" over and over again in between scurrying quickly to a slightly different place in a large room with only 6 people in it