Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[PenguinPower]

boop

[House]

Also, if she was accepting naked votes because "she knew her play was weak", there is no justification for her to shade Gamma's vote on her.

She's scumhunting. She can be suspicious of some votes and not others. Sure we hate naked votes but not every player needs to.

They do if they're "scumhunting".

You can't give her credit for scumhunting Gamma and a pass for NOT scumhunting naked votes when it all happened in the same post.

You're being disingenuous & bending over backwards to explain away transparently scummy behavior.

[Gamma Emerald]

me, mom and nora

mom = momrangal?
if so that's a terrifying hydra

I played a game with them.

It was quite fun.

You’re talking about the Chrono Trigger game right
Tbh between that and a couple other games, Mom’s self-proclaimed BoP does not exist for me

[PenguinPower]

Also, if she was accepting naked votes because "she knew her play was weak", there is no justification for her to shade Gamma's vote on her.

She's scumhunting. She can be suspicious of some votes and not others. Sure we hate naked votes but not every player needs to.

They do if they're "scumhunting".

You can't give her credit for scumhunting Gamma and a pass for NOT scumhunting naked votes when it all happened in the same post.

You're being disingenuous & bending over backwards to explain away transparently scummy behavior.

this tbh

[Titus]

Also, if she was accepting naked votes because "she knew her play was weak", there is no justification for her to shade Gamma's vote on her.

She's scumhunting. She can be suspicious of some votes and not others. Sure we hate naked votes but not every player needs to.

They do if they're "scumhunting".

You can't give her credit for scumhunting Gamma and a pass for NOT scumhunting naked votes when it all happened in the same post.

You're being disingenuous & bending over backwards to explain away transparently scummy behavior.

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm surprised people aren't seeing that manatee has gone into anti-spew mode.

pedit: auro does get progressively more readable when his posts are backed by flips imo!

That requires her to be here.

Lack of presence is an indicator of anti-spew

[House]

me, mom and nora

mom = momrangal?
if so that's a terrifying hydra

I played a game with them.

It was quite fun.

You’re talking about the Chrono Trigger game right
Tbh between that and a couple other games, Mom’s self-proclaimed BoP does not exist for me

I think so.

That game was a blast.

[House]

Also, if she was accepting naked votes because "she knew her play was weak", there is no justification for her to shade Gamma's vote on her.

She's scumhunting. She can be suspicious of some votes and not others. Sure we hate naked votes but not every player needs to.

They do if they're "scumhunting".

You can't give her credit for scumhunting Gamma and a pass for NOT scumhunting naked votes when it all happened in the same post.

You're being disingenuous & bending over backwards to explain away transparently scummy behavior.

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

Nope.

I'm picking fights because Manatee's blatant inconsistency is being ignored.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, if she was accepting naked votes because "she knew her play was weak", there is no justification for her to shade Gamma's vote on her.

She's scumhunting. She can be suspicious of some votes and not others. Sure we hate naked votes but not every player needs to.

They do if they're "scumhunting".

You can't give her credit for scumhunting Gamma and a pass for NOT scumhunting naked votes when it all happened in the same post.

You're being disingenuous & bending over backwards to explain away transparently scummy behavior.

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

No I think House’s Manatee push makes sense
How does Manatee “give a pass” to a naked vote yet in the same breath she shades me despite my logic for why I voted her being face-up on the table?

[Flea The Magician]

still trying to get the next one a little more balanced, the flavour is sorted and a little more chaotic, just need to make sure it's balanced >.<

[House]

Naked votes are perfectly okay, but a player that scumreads her dropping a vote on her is sus?

GTFO.

[Flea The Magician]

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

Yes. This summarisation of her opinion on the votes on her is scumhunting.

Bee vote on me i think is pretty good. The intention feels genuine and I think their desire for a new wagon reads as pretty towny in general.
Gamma's vote is ???? Im pretty sure they were already scumreading me so im not sure why they used bee starting a pressure wagon as the time to lay down a vote
the worst had a naked vote,, which makes sense and is fine with meeeeeee. not much 2 read in to here.
Thor said my iso sent shivers down his spine which is fair,,, cos same im not proud of what ive done so far.
i dont think flea really thinks my frozen-ness here is comparable to NQN (i think thats what fae is talking abt). not a fan of that vote cos i think those scenarios are pretty different.
pp naked vote is fine.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

MG also said she would be here all day. Where did she go?

[Titus]

Naked votes are perfectly okay, but a player that scumreads her dropping a vote on her is sus?

GTFO.

@Gamma/House, To be clear, I don't think you're scummy for pushing this.

I don't think Manatee is scum either for FoSing someone pushing a wrong case but townreading the people caught up in it. I'm not even necessarily agreeing with Manatee's theory, especially because I TR Gamma really hard. I can just see it coming from town who knows their play sucked but suspects scum is overselling it.

[Titus]

MG also said she would be here all day. Where did she go?

That's pretty valid.

[House]

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

Yes. This summarisation of her opinion on the votes on her is scumhunting.

Bee vote on me i think is pretty good. The intention feels genuine and I think their desire for a new wagon reads as pretty towny in general.
Gamma's vote is ???? Im pretty sure they were already scumreading me so im not sure why they used bee starting a pressure wagon as the time to lay down a vote
the worst had a naked vote,, which makes sense and is fine with meeeeeee. not much 2 read in to here.
Thor said my iso sent shivers down his spine which is fair,,, cos same im not proud of what ive done so far.
i dont think flea really thinks my frozen-ness here is comparable to NQN (i think thats what fae is talking abt). not a fan of that vote cos i think those scenarios are pretty different.
pp naked vote is fine.

Blindly accepting naked votes is the exact opposite of scumhunting.

Shading the player that likely had the most acceptable reason for voting her is the exact opposite of scumhunting.

[Flea The Magician]

Am I genuinely having that weird a day where I'm just completely failing to communicate or this game collectively decided that I just speak another language?

[Gamma Emerald]

Naked votes are perfectly okay, but a player that scumreads her dropping a vote on her is sus?

GTFO.

@Gamma/House, To be clear, I don't think you're scummy for pushing this.

I don't think Manatee is scum either for FoSing someone pushing a wrong case but townreading the people caught up in it. I'm not even necessarily agreeing with Manatee's theory, especially because I TR Gamma really hard. I can just see it coming from town who knows their play sucked but suspects scum is overselling it.

That seems ass-backwards to me, I’d expect the reasonable approach to be townreading the one pushing but scumreading those following without explaining why adequately
As I wrote this I also realized the shade on me wasn’t even because I suspected her but because I followed Bee. Like, WHAT?

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I genuinely having that weird a day where I'm just completely failing to communicate or this game collectively decided that I just speak another language?

What are you trying to say in 2186? I’ve mostly gotten where you’re coming from but that one eludes me.

[House]

As I wrote this I also realized the shade on me wasn’t even because I suspected her but because I followed Bee. Like, WHAT?

EXACTLY! She attacked your vote but not your scumread?

[the worst]

i'm surprised people aren't seeing that manatee has gone into anti-spew mode.

pedit: auro does get progressively more readable when his posts are backed by flips imo!

That requires her to be here.

her content when she has been here is literal anti-spew

[Titus]

Blindly accepting naked votes is the exact opposite of scumhunting.

Shading the player that likely had the most acceptable reason for voting her is the exact opposite of scumhunting.

This again is the most acceptable reason TO YOU. There is no universal acceptable reason. Sure, some are common sense and usually obvious to everyone but some are playstyle specific.

Me voting someone for wagon purposes would be acceptable to me. Bee doing the same thing... not so much. This is something we all know to be true. Players scumhunt in their own ways. I've accepted this long ago. Trying to control how the thread sees people is just a recipe for scumreading town and scum sheeping you.

In fact, I think that's why Manatee became a thing at all.

[Flea The Magician]

ebwop i guess?

Scumhunting varies from player to player.

I'm not "bending over backwards" trying to explain that principle. You've been stubborn and bullheaded. You're picking fights because people don't think like you. First Gamma and now Manatee.

Yes. This summarisation of her opinion on the votes on her is scumhunting. THIS IS CLEARLY SARCASM, AS THE FOLLOWING QUOTE CONTAINS ABSOLUTELY NO SCUMHUNTING WHATSOEVER AND IS IN FACT - AS STATED - A SUMMARISATION OF HER OPINION ON THE VOTES ON HER.

Bee vote on me i think is pretty good. The intention feels genuine and I think their desire for a new wagon reads as pretty towny in general.
Gamma's vote is ???? Im pretty sure they were already scumreading me so im not sure why they used bee starting a pressure wagon as the time to lay down a vote
the worst had a naked vote,, which makes sense and is fine with meeeeeee. not much 2 read in to here.
Thor said my iso sent shivers down his spine which is fair,,, cos same im not proud of what ive done so far.
i dont think flea really thinks my frozen-ness here is comparable to NQN (i think thats what fae is talking abt). not a fan of that vote cos i think those scenarios are pretty different.
pp naked vote is fine.

[the worst]

This entire game is just a lesson in how not to try to be funny over the internet.

(sarcasm is close enough to being funny right?)

[Gamma Emerald]

Naked votes are perfectly okay, but a player that scumreads her dropping a vote on her is sus?

GTFO.

@Gamma/House, To be clear, I don't think you're scummy for pushing this.

I don't think Manatee is scum either for FoSing someone pushing a wrong case but townreading the people caught up in it. I'm not even necessarily agreeing with Manatee's theory, especially because I TR Gamma really hard. I can just see it coming from town who knows their play sucked but suspects scum is overselling it.

That seems ass-backwards to me, I’d expect the reasonable approach to be townreading the one pushing but scumreading those following without explaining why adequately
As I wrote this I also realized the shade on me wasn’t even because I suspected her but because I followed Bee. Like, WHAT?

To expand on this, the actual thought process for me when I voted manatee was that it was a sweet spot of someone I suspected and someone I was aware there was momentum for. Up until I voted manatee I was holding my peace as I didn’t want to go on someone just for the momentum to not be there. And following that vote I had suggested Bee could be scum with Manatee because of how her idea of what to do in the case Manatee didn’t respond to pressure like she wanted was to drop it. Honestly that might have been why Manatee opted to shade me.