Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Dunnstral]

My opinion on Manatee opened up to possible groupscum once I saw how fucking nuts the roles with negative utility are

I'm not gonna try to outguess the mod, he's out to lunch

How does town negative utility mean that scum can have a more powerful role, though?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm yeeted off the game during Night 1. I do not know if I can come back to the game thread afterwards.

All I know is that it works like a commute but staying commuted for unforeseen amount of phases, including the day phase. So I won't even flip. I'm just gonna be yeeted.

Oh boy

The roles really are a trip.

[Kate Bishop]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

[ManateeGal]

sorry for getting frustrated. this game has just been super stressful cos even when i attempted i havent felt like people have made attempts to engage or asked me my opinion on things which kind of sucks when im actively working on giving opinions, fleshing out reads and trying.

I still want to here from other people their opinion on who i target, but it feels like people only see it as either a "manatee targets whoever" or "this is a lim we dont need her input on". no ones talked to me abt dgb. no one responded when i asked to be convinced on whemestar.

I dont think of myself as a strong enough player to kill even the strongest of my scumreada without some input yknow?

Im sorry again for my frustration and making a fool of myself, and i really dont think a claim from dgb needs to happen as of now.

By the time LLD and Cab come around I'll ask for their opinions and re-evaluate from there on.

[Dunnstral]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

It implies that they are flailing in this game and know it, which is a weird thing to say

[unwnd]

My opinion on Manatee opened up to possible groupscum once I saw how fucking nuts the roles with negative utility are

I'm not gonna try to outguess the mod, he's out to lunch

How does town negative utility mean that scum can have a more powerful role, though?

No no, it's more-so negative utility doesn't seem exclusive

[DrippingGoofball]

Hopefully something can bring you back.

This could be me? But I have no way to know for sure.

[Dunnstral]

I still want to here from other people their opinion on who i target,

I gave my opinion and a couple of people backed that

[Kate Bishop]

I understood you Dunn!

[GuyInFreezer]

no one responded when i asked to be convinced on whemestar.

I did though

[ManateeGal]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

It implies that they are flailing in this game and know it, which is a weird thing to say

I mean its pretty obvious just yelling without thought, which is gross when it happens and i'll be the first one to admit that.

[Lukewarm]

You know, for someone who has been out of the thread for over 12 hours and 600 posts, you sure did happen to land on the exact posts you needed to make a point just now huh?

Like, dgb. You made 831 at 12 pm est.

Than your next post is 1418 at 12:30 am. So 587 posts and 12.5 hours later.

And within 10 mins you were making a point that I was scum, using posts 1176 and 1239. Posts from hundreds of posts after your 831 and also hundreds of posts before your retunr in 1418.

So, have you been reading along but not making content? Or did you just catch up on all of those posts you missed, and those were the only ones you felt like weighing in on?

[GuyInFreezer]

you'd have to convince me

You're not convinced?

not like im convinced w dgb

I want you to ISO WhemeStar and quote the posts you think is towny.
And I’ll tell you exactly why you’re wrong.

[Kate Bishop]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

It implies that they are flailing in this game and know it, which is a weird thing to say

heart on sleeve.

I'm not at all sure she's town, but I do feel like she has some legit gripes.

Players are treating her like she's a leashed SK.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Okay. I am officially caught up!

With a single read through, I am at

Town:
Dunn
LLd
Cabd, Unwnd
Gif, SSMB

Null:
Kate, Marci, Wheme

Scum:
Toog , DGB

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(Manatee left off intentionally.)

Because someone else mentioned me leaning scum on her before, Marci is back to null mainly because both Kate and Cabd are so hard town reading her, I feel like I am missing something and want to look at her against when doing isos.

This is the list I was referring to. What strikes me about it is that I'm TRing everyone he TRs. He has Toog and Marci way lower than I do, but the rest of his SRs/null are low enough that it feels like if he is scum then some of my TRs are wrong.

I'm looking at something close to my own readslist here which is concerning me. I feel like Luke's catchup just now matches the style of catchup that he's said he does in the past (I think in Crono Trigger he said this). Where he says he reads ahead and posts things that will get him to where he wants to be rather than catching up and posting as he catches up. So the focus on DGB during his catchup really stands out

Like Dunn said, why would you not consider you and I having similar reads could possibly mean that we could just share the same alignment?

Also, I can go back and find the posts if you need me too, but I think that I said I scum read dgb before other people like unwnd and cabd did. So it is actually impossible that I started with the goal of joining that as a consensus read....

As for the catch up, I am not 100% sure I know what you are meaning here? You are correct that as scum, I don't like to walk into a thread blind, and will always check the scum chat / skim through before I start posting. But that did not happen here? Do you think that my catch up posts seem informed? Is it just because I posted a lot about DGB?

(Also, in Chrono Trigger, I think that I was mainly talking about the fact that I never would have been surprised to see Robert's fake claim if he was my scum buddy, because I would have found out about it before I posted)

First bit is answered now so I'll go down to the catch up. What I mean is, somewhere I have seen you say that as scum you will read ahead before posting, like you said just now. I'm not on PC to focus on them and dissect whether they were informed or not. What bothered me is they seemed solely focused on DGB and I didn't remember you particularly scumreading it, so your catchup to me felt like it was agenda-driven, with the agenda being to arrive at the same conclusion about DGB as the rest of the thread. I'll have to reread more to see what your trajectory on it has been. Sounds like I could be forgetting things about the game if I'm this far off on your previous stance on DGB

[unwnd]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

It implies that they are flailing in this game and know it, which is a weird thing to say

I mean its pretty obvious just yelling without thought, which is gross when it happens and i'll be the first one to admit that.

I have nothing against you as a partner and you know I defended you in Bloodstianed

But to me it just sounds like gripes and spilling a guilty conscience. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm not trying to push you out which is why I've extended the hand twice to understand your reads. I almost responded to your previous thoughtrant but I didn't because it's like. It didn't make sense to me, you have the spotlight on you and people wanting to use your role as utility. Yet, when I personally ask you to have more independence, you pivot and say stuff like this. Why are you worried? This is another thing I've continually asked.

[unwnd]

I meant player.

Freudian slip!

[Lukewarm]

You know, for someone who has been out of the thread for over 12 hours and 600 posts, you sure did happen to land on the exact posts you needed to make a point just now huh?

Like, dgb. You made 831 at 12 pm est.

Than your next post is 1418 at 12:30 am. So 587 posts and 12.5 hours later.

And within 10 mins you were making a point that I was scum, using posts 1176 and 1239. Posts from hundreds of posts after your 831 and also hundreds of posts before your retunr in 1418.

So, have you been reading along but not making content? Or did you just catch up on all of those posts you missed, and those were the only ones you felt like weighing in on?

Oh no.

Or are you only interested in pointing out the people you think you can discredit?

Yes. I am looking at people whose reads don't feel natural or sincere. Yours is the worst because I read it like a

conclusion in search of reasons

.

I find it strange that Kyouko's read is "secret" - I am catching up and I haven't gotten there yet.

I see it is the much stranger that you are in the middle of catching up, and just happened to land directly at the posts you needed to make your point. Good to know

[Lukewarm]

Jesus. Toog had just passed you as my strongest scum read, and then we landed on this

[unwnd]

Manatee's problem this game is weary conviction but still wanting to maintain a semblance of read by letting people know it's still there. Yet, with all the attention she still feels alienated. Fight for what you believe in? I don't know. I didn't feel like Manatee was that meek in Bloodstained.

[Dunnstral]

difference btwn this and NQN is i had fun flailing around in that one

This post is crazy

As part of the hydra that led her elim, I'll confirm that she did have a good attitude about the game. she fought, but she didn't really know HOW to fight morph off.

It implies that they are flailing in this game and know it, which is a weird thing to say

heart on sleeve.

I'm not at all sure she's town, but I do feel like she has some legit gripes.

Players are treating her like she's a leashed SK.

That's fair

I was getting sort of anxious because it felt like we were collectively waiting for Manatee and they weren't fully communicating their plans

[unwnd]

Luke's problem in contrast is that he's cutting out his typical sleuthing and instead just passing judgment. Even now, he's got himself heated about.. DGB I think?

Like, are you just apeing a more aggro style this game Luke? It doesn't fit you. We don't need more than one dumbshit unwnd in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

whatever. i asked it to claim.

So this player can force a mass claim, no?

[DrippingGoofball]

You keep making content that I like DGB and it makes me want to scumread you.

I'll compromise: What do you think of Manatee?

Manatee makes me irrationally angry so I better STFU.

[Kate Bishop]

I'm waiting for some of my townreads to get in here and catch up. Anxiety is when things take off like there won't be a chance for that to happen.