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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:47 pm

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In post 894, Salsabil Faria wrote:Grandpa vs GE seems TvT to me also, but definitely not SvS.
TvT/SvS. But you didn't say anything about TvS. What gamma said about early game 1v1s mostly being characterized as TVTs really holds true. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times that someone has popped in with "that 1v1 is probably TvT." Okay, so why can't it be TvS? Personally, I don't think either GMO or GE has done anything particulary scummy, but I don't see anything that screams town from them either. I will say that I can see a world where Gamma comes into this game a bit tilted and it's kinda the same reason I do, but I don't know that that's AI.

So tell me, why are you excluding TvS in this interaction?
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:50 pm

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In post 896, Kop wrote:
In post 698, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 697, marcistar wrote:
In post 696, superbowl9 wrote:pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???
i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...
I think it buys a day, if he's alive tomorrow he hardclaims and we go from there
I can sense the reasoning behind this, but I don't like it. It feels like something that scum would be actively thinking, and are setting up the next day.
OKay try this again giving it a more generous reading.
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:59 am

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In post 866, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 865, T3 wrote:
In post 861, superbowl9 wrote:The car is not moving out of park until I stop wanting to lim you T3
The car will have to be towed.
What are you gonna do vote me? :lol: Start being townier and I'll gladly move elsewhere
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:01 am

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In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 859, T3 wrote:
In post 857, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 818, T3 wrote:Also sb9 can you not vote park on me thanks
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how does gamma react to a thought-out tunnel: a revised metadive in progres
Did you mean to quote that :shifty:
In post 860, T3 wrote:Town Gamma in LN235 was tunneled by Nero. He tried to engage with Nero but then when Nero kept scumreading him for what be saw was irrational he just ignored Nero.
Eh that’s more-or-less true but the read on Nero is different than how I’m reading GMo here
Didn't mean to quote that.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:04 am

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In post 878, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 870, Roden wrote:
In post 856, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 802, T3 wrote:
In post 747, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 724, T3 wrote:
In post 722, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 716, T3 wrote:
In post 697, marcistar wrote:
In post 696, superbowl9 wrote:pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???
i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...
Nah.
Scum don't do that.
Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case
Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.
"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me
This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.
Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least
Why are you so set on getting me to claim tomorrow?
Why so serious? You didn’t seem to have an issue softclaiming today :P
If you’re town, it at least gives us the full information (more helpful to town than scum since scum already have info advantage). If you’re scum it locks you into a role early and gives us a chance to spot a bs claim. Tell me, if you actually are a PR and survive the night, what benefit does concealing your full role serve at that point?
I would be screaming for your head if not for metagood.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:18 am

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In post 893, Kop wrote:But she could be playing to her meta that everybody will know is her town meta
I have no meta.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:22 am

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I'm locktowning Salsabil for *reasons*
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:31 am

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In post 905, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 893, Kop wrote:But she could be playing to her meta that everybody will know is her town meta
I have no meta.
ok
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:32 am

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In post 879, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 877, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 872, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 862, superbowl9 wrote:If you want to just save some time gamma's town
so u think Gpas mafia right?

Also,

nvm im moving my vote over here rn

VOTE: Kop

the wagon orignally started out too fast but it kinda just dissipated when kops recent posting wasnt even towny
Uhhhh no?
i have no clue why now 2 ppl have said that Gpa/Gamma are TVT, like how does someone think that lol
People yelling at other people is usually tvt.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:34 am

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In post 876, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 871, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 856, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 802, T3 wrote:
In post 747, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 724, T3 wrote:
In post 722, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 716, T3 wrote:
In post 697, marcistar wrote:
In post 696, superbowl9 wrote:pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???
i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...
Nah.
Scum don't do that.
Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case
Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.
"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me
This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.
Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least
This is something I actually feel confident I can defend T3 on
While his theory is probably not entirely correct in practice, I know T3 has said similar before, and as such unless there was a game I am not presently aware of where something happened to contradict that belief it would make sense he’s still thinking this
No yeah i dont doubt he believes this hes just wrong
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:35 am

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Galron is using really weird language with what looks like
coaxing
people into agreeing with him.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:36 am

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In post 894, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Ok, I finished catch up (again :giggle:). Not in the mood for post by post commenting rn, so I'm giving my thoughts altogether.

Most probably
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T3
because what I said already (my reason to scumread them) + I can't remember
T3
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certain paly style
which they clearly know.

The last reason goes for
Titus
also. Both of them are going for LHF slots which I don't think town!them would do. So, the scum team is now:
T3
/
Titus
/?
If
Roden
and
DGb
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Garlon
can be the 3rd scum. I don’t really like their vote on me.

Not sure about
Roden
atm, their softing PR is a ballsy move, especially when there’s no daytalk available for scums. So I'll let them live today but I'm agreeing with
sb9
about this matter: if they're not the nk, then they're sus.

Grandpa
vs
GE
seems TvT to me also, but definitely not SvS.

@HF
, if I wouldn’t townread you, would you still put me in the towncore?

Updated read list with no particular order:



marci

sb9

HF



GE

Kop

Grandpa


Garlon

Roden

DGb

STD



Titus

T3



T3
also asked me a question if I ever played with
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before, something like that. The answer is yes and I don’t remember that they placed RVS vote by giving joking reason.


UNVOTE: Roden

VOTE: T3

Will go afk now (2) :P
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:50 am

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In post 879, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 877, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 872, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 862, superbowl9 wrote:If you want to just save some time gamma's town
so u think Gpas mafia right?

Also,

nvm im moving my vote over here rn

VOTE: Kop

the wagon orignally started out too fast but it kinda just dissipated when kops recent posting wasnt even towny
Uhhhh no?
i have no clue why now 2 ppl have said that Gpa/Gamma are TVT, like how does someone think that lol
I didn’t say it was TvT either :lol: i didn’t cite any read on gpa - i dont think that exchange was very AI
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:52 am

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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:53 am

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In post 445, marcistar wrote:
In post 350, HockeyFan wrote:Marci, can u elaborate on that vote/your thoughts in the game state in general
no.

jk!!!
i dont really have thoughts from before my vote, but i think t3 could be scum because from what i've seen... he usually gives scummier vibes as town.. like in an "this will be easy to push a miselim on" sort of way. im not really getting that here..
In post 378, Kop wrote:
In post 374, superbowl9 wrote:You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him :)
I'm only saying that it could be easy to do that. I'm not saying that he did it here, but I've seen it before.

Scum impressions so far, is within Gamma, Grandpa, Titus, T3.
i agree with the points people have brought up on this just scumreading the people who are more active. but people piled on votes here kinda quickly so im wary about this being scum tbh.
In post 397, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: kop
Yeah I’m good with this, don’t entirely buy the townslip but those kop SRs are pretty much all the most notable slots
i like gamma emerald for this.
marci saying "no, jk" feels weird but it could be a personality thing.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:56 am

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In post 491, marcistar wrote:
In post 485, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 459, marcistar wrote:
In post 453, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 443, HockeyFan wrote:oh nvm, you're calling yourself STd's scumbuddy. why do ppl in my towncore like to claim mafia so much smfh
Because I'm mafia :cop:
oh really? same!!
too bad we don't have a daychat huh? Might as well discuss the NK now tho, I'm thinking we just kill whoever has the highest postcount
hmm true true, it really does suck because i would love as much time as possible to discuss our gameplan!!

killing the highest postcount is a cool idea, it helps us be able to hide behind inactivity :cool: :cool: (cant be sused if theres nobody around to sus u!!!) but, what if we go for the
second
highest postcount so we can frame the highest for not dying?
In post 488, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 476, Roden wrote:Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.
Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation :lol:
liked this thought from u btw, seems genuine.
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superbowl9 wrote:
In post 487, HockeyFan wrote:im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.
Why? I peg at least 1 scum in the 3 of em
I mean you're probably right but T3 is town because I like his content. Roden's progression on reads/reasoning for them seems solid. Marci because of tonal/vibes. Who do u think is the scum?
dont like how ur leaving room to warp
marci's comment about the thought being genuine seems more likely to come from town but I can't put my finger on why.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:58 am

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In post 496, marcistar wrote:
In post 493, marcistar wrote:
In post 492, HockeyFan wrote:I mean you're probably right but
is leaving room to warp imo
i should prob explain a bit more.
but in the future when u need to dissolve the trs and sus one of us, u could point here and be like "i knew all along..."

also u got kinda got reactive there hmm wonder what that means... :cop:
This more complex thought also comes from town marci I think.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:00 am

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In post 518, marcistar wrote:
In post 513, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 511, marcistar wrote:
In post 504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 448, HockeyFan wrote:I liked content from 445, plus nothing feels off about your tonal/vibes rn
Marci isn’t screaming scum but she feels somewhat different from OMB
different how :eek:
You feel a little less engaged ig
oh thats cuz i am
also lolwhat
Like scum would normally defend against this instead of going "oh yeah i'm not engaged i agree with you"
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:00 am

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Conculusion: marci is leantown from my ISO dive thing
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In post 918, T3 wrote:Conclusion: marci is leantown from my ISO dive thing
EBWOP
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:01 am

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In post 62, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: titus
In post 91, Save The Dragons wrote:i feel like we're just getting distracted from limming titus which is what we should be doing
In post 95, Save The Dragons wrote:something seems off about you
In post 101, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 98, Titus wrote:
In post 95, Save The Dragons wrote:something seems off about you
That's the definition of me. Lol.
no i know you're weird (not a dig i'm a weirdo too)

you got that BIG SCUM ENERGY about you
I can understand where all these posts from STD are coming from.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 am

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In post 881, Roden wrote:Oof, this was not a good response.

Scum actually don't have the full info advantage here. There is a very good reason I didn't full claim and your reasoning for trying to make me full claim is weak and not coming from a townie mindset. Only scum benefit from PR claims, and you trying to force one makes you look like you're trying to open wolf this game. The role fishing here is obvious and I'm not sure how you could ever justify it.

The worst part about this is that I'm not even on the chopping block here yet you're acting like I'm at E-1 and claiming to save myself. I'm offering info because town PRs absolutely need to be wary and try not to crumb, since I'm fairly certain scum can tear through them this time around.
If you really think that softing OUT OF NOWHERE D1 has no consequences…. Idk what to tell you.

Cat’s out of the bag that you’re a PR at this point, sorry wasn’t me who did it it was you. Think of it this way: if you were town informed you’d just instantly spill your info to town right?

To call me openly telling you to claim TOMORROW after a soft a rolefish… i really don’t understand what your aim is if you actually are town. Do you expect to survive multiple nights without a protective???

Of course it makes sense if you’re scum trying to delay getting exposed, but what’s the town thought process here? Genuinely confused
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On a gut level I agree where most of STD's reads are coming from which makes him have the same natural town POV as me. It's hard for scum to fake genuine emotional reactions townies also feel, sort of a mindmeld on the gut level.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:05 am

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In post 882, Roden wrote:These thoughts aren't congruent btw.
Yes I went through a T3 town lens in that post so gamma would understand me better
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:05 am

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In post 921, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 881, Roden wrote:Oof, this was not a good response.

Scum actually don't have the full info advantage here. There is a very good reason I didn't full claim and your reasoning for trying to make me full claim is weak and not coming from a townie mindset. Only scum benefit from PR claims, and you trying to force one makes you look like you're trying to open wolf this game. The role fishing here is obvious and I'm not sure how you could ever justify it.

The worst part about this is that I'm not even on the chopping block here yet you're acting like I'm at E-1 and claiming to save myself. I'm offering info because town PRs absolutely need to be wary and try not to crumb, since I'm fairly certain scum can tear through them this time around.
If you really think that softing OUT OF NOWHERE D1 has no consequences…. Idk what to tell you.

Cat’s out of the bag that you’re a PR at this point, sorry wasn’t me who did it it was you. Think of it this way: if you were town informed you’d just instantly spill your info to town right?

To call me openly telling you to claim TOMORROW after a soft a rolefish… i really don’t understand what your aim is if you actually are town. Do you expect to survive multiple nights without a protective???

Of course it makes sense if you’re scum trying to delay getting exposed, but what’s the town thought process here? Genuinely confused
It depends on Roden's role though, he could be something ridiculous that helps town if he doesn't out.
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