Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Lukewarm]

Lukewarm, what are your thoughts on Kyouko?

Leaning town. But not one of my strongest reads this game

[Kate Bishop]

Luke’s just worried this is all bloodstained 2.0

[Lukewarm]

Luke’s just worried this is all bloodstained 2.0

I am not sure what this is referring to about that game?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role

. I begin the game brainwashed.

At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.

Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you

begin the game

brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?

You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.

This hosility seems unwarranted. One innocent question and you're overreacting to get him not to look further. Only the last sentence was necessary.

No one would call this hostility. Only you, and only when you have an agenda to push.

Reading into how people phrase things is part of sorting them. You and I are both aware of this. Yet, your post to Toog was telling him to not ask you for details and here you're claiming it's an agenda to ask for more information from you.

You know what, let's fight this out. I think (so far), that there's a decent chance you're scum. Let's argue around slots in the game.

If it's T v T, we get unique insights. If you're scum, you either act as a chicken shit or give content. So I'm picking a fight with you.

I also doubt you're a gravedigger when the only tracker is ridiculously gated.

LLD hasn't claimed Gravedigger and nobody has claimed Tracker so...?
I'd vote here now if I was caught up but I'm like 10 pages behind

[Kate Bishop]

I am just teasing you about your read Luke

[Dunnstral]

Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what

are

you planning on doing?

killing titus w my shot

We are waiting for you

I don't understand why we have to have the other elimination primed for you to lock it in

[Titus]

I haven't caught up completely with all that's happened since my last post.

However, a pattern I have realized is that each claim comes with a positive for town except for LLD. LLD claims this brainwash is a full claim. That means, as a role, LLD stands out and provides no utility.

LLD is a very emotionally manipulative player in most of the games I have played with them. They have no qualms about that as either alignment which makes them harder to sort. I feel like they've grown and made me grow as a person. That doesn't change my expectations of them though.

LLD should see my emotional state is the exact same as Bloodstained, yet they don't. The only anomaly is that I don't have a plan to verify my reads. I expect LLD to read my emotional consistency even if they disagree with my read on them.

LLD's goal has been to get ManateeGal to shoot threats to her, rather than to shoot scum. However, I'm not going to lie in that I have minor paranoia of DGB.

I'll be looking at this more tomorrow. I'm just wanting to lay out where I am at and ask for help here. I respect LLD as a person and I listen to them, but that doesn't change my view of them.

[Titus]

Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role

. I begin the game brainwashed.

At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.

Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you

begin the game

brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?

You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.

This hosility seems unwarranted. One innocent question and you're overreacting to get him not to look further. Only the last sentence was necessary.

No one would call this hostility. Only you, and only when you have an agenda to push.

Reading into how people phrase things is part of sorting them. You and I are both aware of this. Yet, your post to Toog was telling him to not ask you for details and here you're claiming it's an agenda to ask for more information from you.

You know what, let's fight this out. I think (so far), that there's a decent chance you're scum. Let's argue around slots in the game.

If it's T v T, we get unique insights. If you're scum, you either act as a chicken shit or give content. So I'm picking a fight with you.

I also doubt you're a gravedigger when the only tracker is ridiculously gated.

LLD hasn't claimed Gravedigger and nobody has claimed Tracker so...?
I'd vote here now if I was caught up but I'm like 10 pages behind

LLD claimed being taken over by the kill which is a temporary gravedigger.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: WhemeStar

I do not think their stance on Cabd/LLD this game comes from town

[ssbm_Kyouko]

1950
Marking my spot for later

[Kate Bishop]

LLD claimed being taken over by the kill which is a temporary gravedigger.

gravedigger is another name for coroner, which is a role that gets otherwise hidden information about a dead player.

That has nothing to do with LLD's claimed role.

[ManateeGal]

i think it is shitty to have a player effectively dead if the lim is not gonna happen for a while after. ive said this before and will say it again

[Kate Bishop]

Manatee you are stalling the day. Whoever you vote while dead at the end still has a chance to impact today and use their vote.

[Kate Bishop]

I’m not trying to be mean, but you need to consider gamestate if you are town

[Kate Bishop]

i think it is shitty to have a player effectively dead if the lim is not gonna happen for a while after. ive said this before and will say it again

Maybe I'm not a typical player, but when I'm town being foregone-dead pisses me off, but I still give a shit about my wincon and I still keep working through stuff. Knowing my thoughts are about to be confirmed town thoughts is consolation prize enough to keep trying to figure things out.

I think you overestimate the awfulness of being effectively dead in a mafia game.

[Kate Bishop]

Anyway.

I'm seriously short on sleep, but no nap for me :/

Luke, anything you want to discuss?

[ManateeGal]

HURT: Titus

[Kate Bishop]

You're a good soul, manatee.

[ManateeGal]

[Lukewarm]

UNVOTE:

[ManateeGal]

UNVOTE:

[Lukewarm]

Luke, anything you want to discuss?

I've been out of the house most of the day, so I feel like I'm missing stuff from today, so I don't know atm.

At one point people were talking a lot about kyouko. What are your thoughts there?

Also, who is your top target for the vote out? Still wheme?

[Kate Bishop]

Luke, anything you want to discuss?

I've been out of the house most of the day, so I feel like I'm missing stuff from today, so I don't know atm.

At one point people were talking a lot about kyouko. What are your thoughts there?

Also, who is your top target for the vote out? Still wheme?

notsci's first DM to me after manatee's vote was "Now let’s kill wheme", so currently, yes.

Re kyouko, I've progressively liked her posts more over time, but I have concerns since DGB has pointed out she's been much more engaged than here in recent town games. Before I saw that, I was wondering if she tends to play in sort of catch mode and doesn't interact directly much with other players.

Given current state of sleep, I probably won't do any meta-ing until sometime tomorrow.

Have you played with her? If so, what do you think of DGB's take on her towngame?

[Dunnstral]

Manatee you are stalling the day. Whoever you vote while dead at the end still has a chance to impact today and use their vote.

Yeah to be clear, I moved my vote with the expectation that manatee was going on titus

[DrippingGoofball]

Lukewarm, what are your thoughts on Kyouko?

Leaning town. But not one of my strongest reads this game

WHY