Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Dunnstral]

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Marking my spot for later

What do you think of the meta that was brought up against you? When you get there

[Titus]

Welp, I'm dead. GG another town loss.

[Lukewarm]

Luke, anything you want to discuss?

I've been out of the house most of the day, so I feel like I'm missing stuff from today, so I don't know atm.

At one point people were talking a lot about kyouko. What are your thoughts there?

Also, who is your top target for the vote out? Still wheme?

notsci's first DM to me after manatee's vote was "Now let’s kill wheme", so currently, yes.

Re kyouko, I've progressively liked her posts more over time, but I have concerns since DGB has pointed out she's been much more engaged than here in recent town games. Before I saw that, I was wondering if she tends to play in sort of catch mode and doesn't interact directly much with other players.

Given current state of sleep, I probably won't do any meta-ing until sometime tomorrow.

Have you played with her? If so, what do you think of DGB's take on her towngame?

I have played with kyouko twice. In our first game, I got scum read them pretty hard, like tunneled x.x , but then I died night 1

In our second game, I town read them, but then for some reason I still don't understand they were somewhat suddenly elimed day 1.

So I have had 2 games with them, both times we were both town, but neither game let us get past day 1 together. So I feel like I have less of a meta feel for her then I would expect after 2 games.

I kinda want to look back at those two games when I am back on my computer.

[Lukewarm]

That should say that I tunneled them day 1. I don't think it was clear as written lol

[DrippingGoofball]

HURT: Titus

sigh

We were getting good content.

[Kate Bishop]

That should say that I tunneled them day 1. I don't think it was clear as written lol

I undermeant what you stood.

[Dunnstral]

Welp, I'm dead. GG another town loss.

I will wait for the flip. Final thoughts for tomorrow if you are town?

[Lukewarm]

Lukewarm, what are your thoughts on Kyouko?

Leaning town. But not one of my strongest reads this game

WHY

I remember not liking their original entrance to the thread, but I have progressivly just liked their posts more over time.

Mainly vibes I guess lol.

I have not looked at that slot all that closely. I remember liking the way they thought about lld's role. I remember liking their posts when they said that me and Dunn misunderstood their posts about me vs the game state.

Not just because they were questioning a scum read on me when scum reading me was somewhat trendy, although that did help, but also just going with "you guys are not understanding me" and reexplaining it. It felt like they had a real thought about the game state and were trying to get me and him to understand.

And like, they could have instead either stuck with the scum read on me or using Dunn's post as a point to talk with Dunn and adjust their stances.

Idk, it felt real and not very agenda driven

[Titus]

Welp, I'm dead. GG another town loss.

I will wait for the flip. Final thoughts for tomorrow if you are town?

I gave them for now but will keep trying.

[Kate Bishop]

Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what

are

you planning on doing?

There's a lot that has changed. what is included in the turn you don't like?

[Dunnstral]

Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what

are

you planning on doing?

There's a lot that has changed. what is included in the turn you don't like?

The votes moving to lld and the 'drama' around that time.

[Dunnstral]

I was mostly talking about the drama

[Kate Bishop]

I'm having thoughts about the asynchronicity of the claims so far.

but

waiting is.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

[GuyInFreezer]

Not_Mafia replaces Salsabil Faria

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh wait wrong game

[Titus]

Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what

are

you planning on doing?

There's a lot that has changed. what is included in the turn you don't like?

The votes moving to lld and the 'drama' around that time.

I find it interesting that MG shoots me after the LLD trend. Normally, I would scumread the fuck out of MG and as partners with LLD for that type of move but vigs are rarely scum.

I also worry that LLD isn't scum but just vocally attacks anyone against them regardless of alignment. I still don't handle anger well. I think LLD is scum and their role wouldn't be a huge loss, but I wouldn't be surprised if wrong.

I never saw relationships form the way I needed to. Expect scum to be towards the back of my wagon, doubly so if I am wrong on LLD.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what

are

you planning on doing?

There's a lot that has changed. what is included in the turn you don't like?

The votes moving to lld and the 'drama' around that time.

I find it interesting that MG shoots me after the LLD trend. Normally, I would scumread the fuck out of MG and as partners with LLD for that type of move but vigs are rarely scum.

I also worry that LLD isn't scum but just vocally attacks anyone against them regardless of alignment. I still don't handle anger well. I think LLD is scum and their role wouldn't be a huge loss, but I wouldn't be surprised if wrong.

I never saw relationships form the way I needed to. Expect scum to be towards the back of my wagon, doubly so if I am wrong on LLD.

Once again:

1) I have not gotten angry this game.
2) I have scum read players, incuding your slot, before they attacked me, scum read me, or otherwise opposed me. This list includes Unwnd, Kate Bishop and DGB.

Every time you say this, I'm going to post these words again, because your claims are bold face lies at worst, and if I am trying to be charitable, unfair presumptions that you pretend to know about me, and just assume are true.

[Titus]

@LLD, What motivation would I have to lie here? I'm dead. Lying here doesn't further anything for me in this game or in my mafia career as a whole.

I am attempting to sort you and calling it as I see it. To pretend that I am acting as if I have you solved is crap. I don't but I will continue to call it out.

[Titus]

You need to admit, if town, that your FoS on Toog for FoSing you was crap.

Having a gated tracker meant he was right to be suspicious of your claim. I get why. Rather than listen, you attacked the slot into the ground before I even arrived.

[Kate Bishop]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You need to admit, if town, that your FoS on Toog for FoSing you was crap.

Having a gated tracker meant he was right to be suspicious of your claim. I get why. Rather than listen, you attacked the slot into the ground before I even arrived.

Titus, if I know my role is real, why would I listen to someone who is discrediting it?

"Rather than listen to the person actively trying to discredit my claim, I accepted their critiques and agreed to die, despite my role claim being the truth"

What are you even saying?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You need to admit, if town, that your FoS on Toog for FoSing you was crap.

Having a gated tracker meant he was right to be suspicious of your claim. I get why. Rather than listen, you attacked the slot into the ground before I even arrived.

Titus, if I know my role is real, why would I listen to someone who is discrediting it?

"Rather than listen to the person actively trying to discredit my claim, I accepted their critiques and agreed to die, despite my role claim being the truth"

What are you even saying?

Oh, and bonus content: Toog never mentioned anything about a tracker, about a counter claim, about any reason why he would have to doubt the claim besides, and I quote

"It's a bad idea to town bin LLD so easily, because she can gambit".

No claim at all that the reason for believing this was tied to his own role. Despite his bad half claim. So no, Titus, I don't feel particularly like I was meant to try and understand why he was so skeptical because he didn't provide a reason for being skeptical. All he did was use my history, which doesn't even apply to me, given the circumstances, and say "we shouldn't trust it!"

It's paranoia aspersions designed to prevent townies from finding each other. That's a scum move. Toog didn't even FoS me. He literally just said "we shouldn't be so quick to call her lock town."

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I'm pretty well convinced you're flipping red here Titus, and these words are being written in the last ditch hope that Manatee's role won't kill you, so

I'm treating you as if you're going to live and not flip, despite how you are writing as if you are a townie who has died (which is what you would do as either alignment, and has no bearing on your alignment for me.)

[Titus]

@LLD, You can listen to someone without accepting their premise as true. You can acknowledge that a FoS of you isn't automatically scum, which is what I've tried to do here.

I don't think all of the people who voted me were scum, and the only way I sort that is to remain calm and listen. I don't see you doing that. You never gave me a chance because Toog and I FoSed you and we were right to do so mechanically. Now it will lead to a town loss.