Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[House]

[Cat Scratch Fever]

MM still hasn't checked in?

[House]

MM still hasn't checked in?

She's reading as demoralized scum to me ever since the end of d1 when she was also being scumread.

A team getting rutted tends to have that effect.

[Auro]

I know I've attacked MM before but my heart disagrees

[House]

2nd thoughts on distancing your entire team?

[Titus]

House, I feel you're getting a little tunneled

[House]

Just pushing buttons.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Enchant doesn't vote for Miss Midnight when I asked for his help twice and he never explains his townread there. He at one point says gut and at another says he thinks scum can't produce the drawing she produced...

Contrast that to his other townreads which he has plenty of explanations for and I think it may mean she's scum.

I'd vote her but I don't wanna look opportunistic and I'm scared everyone's just gonna jump on board of me any minute now so I will cower under the rug of my attic and only emerge when it is safe outside.

This looks to be true on a cursory ISO skim.

Spoiler: For my own reference more than anything

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

Let's try this a different way...

Why do you consider these players town?

Thor is town, because of... Why i need it explain, just look. You scumread him simple because he "doesh't play like normal town", but you forget, everyone have different town play.

Bee not townread now. Probably i am hypocrite, but she certanly doesh't care at all who is elimmed. As long as it's not her of course.

Haley and Huley still looks fairly townie for me, i started to townread her from "Vigilante" question on which she reacted townie.

MM... I quess gut. I can't explain really.

You are same, with a bit "I don't think scum gets wagoned so fast for idiotic reasons"

Fair.

Well, i was not joking about "could mafia do that". If you look at paint, you see knife in MM hands.

I think as mafia she would write flower or something cute instead.

I townread House, because i find his nature of posting a townie. He was plenty understandbly annoyed by Thor. I disliked push on him at all, because you seemed just sheeping Gamma who made up accusation like "Can't tell why but he is mafia". Like, i too have another reasons for townreading him, but can't tell them, now what?

I don't really sure what's going on. But right now it looks like Gamma is more likely town, not only because of townie reaction on "Hammer, you ded", but because i would die already like 100 times if Gamma was mafia, because it's easy to get me killed here instead of her.

[PenguinPower]

I just re-watched that last night. Great movie.

[House]

I just re-watched that last night. Great movie.

It wasn't quite what I expected for an animated flick.

I was pleasantly surprised.

[Auro]

The beginning sequence of that movie is <3

You wanna know how to push my buttons, Housey Mousey?

[Something_Smart]

No, I'm projecting based on Meta Manipulation tactics.

I mean projecting in the psychology sense (assuming that other people think/act similarly to you). Just because you would never play differently as scum on a gimmick alt doesn't mean nobody would. And people do, because I've seen it.

[House]

The beginning sequence of that movie is <3

You wanna know how to push my buttons, Housey Mousey?

Discovery is half the fun.

[Something_Smart]

But that is just a completely shitty vote.

Is it though? You saw my reasoning, right?

Yesterday the worst was like "guys, Thor is scum for faking mechanics mistakes" and everyone kinda ignored him.

Today, after he's dead, I was like "guys, Thor is scum for faking mechanics mistakes" and PP was like "no that argument is stupid and you are stupid". And I would have loved for him to say that back when tw was alive, so that he could help me argue against it, and I have no idea why he didn't. That's why I voted him.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was being disingenuous to see if you'd get defensive.

LUL
Btw I can now go into why I felt confident enough to read House early on, I was seeing something vaguely similar to his play in Radio Buzz, and given how little he posted there it boosted my belief that “yes, I can read him off minimal posting”.

[House]

I really wish this site had a ModBot.

That's the one thing I miss from MU.

[Auro]

I thought it was clear. Auro’s fake hammer on you allowed Enchant to unvote which then led to people saying “oh scum wouldn’t act defeated like that” and then unvote Enchant to the point it was no longer a wagon.

Oh yeah, I just wanted to point out that it's theory-bad for scum to fakehammer a very promising lim wagon on the indirect assumption that reacting to the fakehammeree could net your buddy townreads. A usual outcome of fakehammers is drawing genuine responses from the hammeree, and the risk of destroying that wagon isn't worth the townreads you'd potentially net for the other.

[House]

I was being disingenuous to see if you'd get defensive.

LUL
Btw I can now go into why I felt confident enough to read House early on, I was seeing something vaguely similar to his play in Radio Buzz, and given how little he posted there it boosted my belief that “yes, I can read him off minimal posting”.

A faulty belief, as I would have made those same posts as either alignment.

I couldn't keep up, which meant I couldn't form reads OR develop an agenda.

[Gamma Emerald]

I just re-watched that last night. Great movie.

I watched Pulp Fiction last night, man that’s a hard movie to keep track of.

[House]

A usual outcome of fakehammers is drawing genuine responses from the hammeree

Not such a concern if your intention was noted in scum chat, is it?

[House]

I just re-watched that last night. Great movie.

I watched Pulp Fiction last night, man that’s a hard movie to keep track of.

You're probably get lost in Memento, v then.

[House]

I just re-watched that last night. Great movie.

I watched Pulp Fiction last night, man that’s a hard movie to keep track of.

You'd probably get lost in Memento, then.

/sigh

[Auro]

A usual outcome of fakehammers is drawing genuine responses from the hammeree

Not such a concern if your intention was noted in scum chat, is it?

Sure, but I'm talking about scum fakehammering town, not scum fakehammering scum. Penguin's argument was that scum (me) fakehammered town (GE) to engineer scumbuddy's (Enchant) response to GE's reaction to obtain townreads. Of course, you could extend it to me being scum

with

GE and orchestrating all of it, which would be... hmm.

[Auro]

Oh no, I've started using "Sure," too

[House]

Nah.

Gamma is town. He knows how scorched earth I get when I feel attacked.