Newbie 2078 - Game Over

[Micc]

Big thanks to Datisi for moderating during my absence. I'm back home now and will be handling everything going forward. If anything changes we'll be sure to let you all know.

Votecount 1.04

Dew (2) -

RCEnigma, UhUhWaitAndSee

Dorsey (2) -

Dew, Titus

Greeting (1) -

GrandpaMo

TL The Legend (1) -

Dorsey

Titus (1) -

Greeting

Not Voting (2) -

TL The Legend, AlwaysNever

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-09-16 19:30:00).

[Micc]

Prodding Titus, GrandpaMo, RCEnigma and Greeting.

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

Do you have any special connection to Dew? Is that why you're bussing her while targeting me...? I'm just spitballing here.

Mmm. Dew was RVS but I'm keeping the vote on for now.

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

also random gutreads:
grandpa mo is weird
dew is neutral
dorsey is probably the scummiest rn, but don't really wanna vote em yet (mostly bc i don't wanna omgus, but also because it's really early to put them at plur)
alwaysnever is pretty townie to meh, as is uhuh
titus is town.
finally, RCEnigma is neutral, but slightly town-leaning.

I am missing?

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

So we're out of RVS because you say so? You literally just got here.

Legitimate reads are been made, so I don't disagree with them. Clearly the votes aren't random anymore.

[AlwaysNever]

And who is "we"? You weren't here yet

that's semantics, he meant GrandpaMo, me and RCE probably

At what point did the votes become serious? Especially if no serious reasoning was given? Not rhetorical.

If the vote's not serious you can really just unvote and call it RVS vote as you claim it is, the fact that you haven't and then keep coming at TL is definitely coming off as really sus right now.

also random gutreads:
grandpa mo is weird
dew is neutral
dorsey is probably the scummiest rn, but don't really wanna vote em yet (mostly bc i don't wanna omgus, but also because it's really early to put them at plur)
alwaysnever is pretty townie to meh, as is uhuh
titus is town.
finally, RCEnigma is neutral, but slightly town-leaning.

I am missing?

might be because your post hasnt been that impactful yet, or an honest mistake really

aaanyway, my own gutread, now that everyone is here:

{}
{Titus, RCE}
{Everyone else}
{GrandpaMo, Dorsey}
{}

(top is strong townlean, bottom is strong scumlean, middle is null in case you need context)

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

No, there's no response to that because I don't know what you're saying. It just looks like you're not reading. You asking my scum read on TL The Legend kind of furthers this assessment.

OK, so I have read your iso again. I still don't get what you are trying to imply. Maybe when I do a comprehensive re-read I will, something I will try to do weekly, but I have already read through the posts once. You made only seven posts before that and so whatever it is it's not obvious, and there are no quotations in your posts so it is also not obvious what you are replying to in an iso.

If it is an RVS vote then it was getting past RVS by then. Hence, my original post.

[Dorsey]

I'm just going to go ahead and clear some stuff up, because a lot of this is not making sense and I don't know if you're trying to be humorous, but it's not translating.
@UhUhWaitAndSee
1. What are you talking about? I haven't understood anything you've posted.

@GrandpaMo
1. I don't follow your logic that one of Dew and I is scum because she said my profile picture was "sus"

@TL The Legend
1. How was my vote on you not RVS when you weren't even here?

@AlwaysNever
1. You answering for TL The Legend isn't valid for me. Also, the names you listed - their votes look random.
2. "Keep coming at TL" is an exaggeration and inaccuracy - I don't know if I can trust your judgement.

[TL The Legend]

also random gutreads:
grandpa mo is weird
dew is neutral
dorsey is probably the scummiest rn, but don't really wanna vote em yet (mostly bc i don't wanna omgus, but also because it's really early to put them at plur)
alwaysnever is pretty townie to me,

as is uhuh

titus is town.
finally, RCEnigma is neutral, but slightly town-leaning.

I am missing?

try reading it again. next to alwaysnever. But also

[TL The Legend]

ignore the random "but also" there, i was gonna say smth else but it was just filler.

[TL The Legend]

Also Always Never, i agree with dorsey for once, you dont need to defend me or answer for me, I'm perfectly capable of holding my own. It's not like I'm getting voted off or anything, it's just a weird vote to me

i keep almost using the l-word help i'm old

@TL The Legend
1. How was my vote on you not RVS when you weren't even here?

Again, whether my slot was here or not is irrelevant. You don't need me to be here to make reads on another person. Honestly, I understand that it was kinda a joke, and I'm fine with you staying on, but IDK, it feels weird to me. And when a slot feels weird, I interrogate it, especially considering how this is early in D1 and we don't have too much to go on.

[TL The Legend]

Let's just move on and consider the mess of logic that are GrandpaMo and Uhuh. I...don't understand anything they're trying to prove.

[TL The Legend]

And if you're saying there's '1 scum in between', which one is the scum? And how are you drawing this conclusion? And why would the scum not be Dew if she initiated the interaction?

i am saying there is one scum between because of how the interaction initiated. i am saying you are never alligned here. so one is either town or scum. and no dew can still be town here -- it doesn't matter who initiated the conversation. yes it was an rvs vote, but the way you questioned could be from a town pov or scum pov then how dew continued it in post 17 just further confirms that.

Firstly, it was RVS and so the convo was mostly a joke. Also, post 17 is literally dew saying how the whole thing was just a joke and complimenting dorsey's pfp. IDK what you're trying to get at here.

[TL The Legend]

Two people having an avid interaction doesn't mean they're not both scum, because smart scum interacts with each other. So like, your entire reasoning is just pointless. For pushing such a pointless, flawed argument, and generally just doing nothing substantial, I'm going to

VOTE: GrandpaMo

Also keeping an eye on UhUh for just being chaotic.

[Titus]

So we're out of RVS because you say so? You literally just got here.

Don't like this. If someone's able to make content, then they are out of RVS.

[Titus]

What I'm saying is there has to be some kind of transition point or period. How were we supposed to know that you weren't going to do RVS? And which one of my votes do you think was outside of RVS?

The end of RVS is not a fixed time.

[Titus]

I like most of the posting on this page.

[Titus]

Will look at detail this evening.

[Dorsey]

I guess I just don't know what content is, because none of what's been presented has looked damnable to me. It might not be RVS, but it's definitely a half-assed voting stage - maybe that's the transition period.

("For once"? How long have we been playing together?)

[Dorsey]

And Titus's Post 89 is jumping into the middle of a conversation and taking it out of context. TL was saying my vote wasn't RVS (it was) and Post 68 was me challenging his push to retroactively declare that. Are games typically this opportunistic?

[Greeting]

Why does this day have to be so long? Let me re-read everything so I can contribute, though I still do feel it's quite early in the game to get a good read.

[Greeting]

I can smell the desperation of Dorsey to get the attention off himself. I always find this suspicious in mafia games.

What I'm about to say is obvious to (I think) everyone but I want to show my train of thought. The goal of town is to remove all of the mafia. The goal of the mafia is to remove enough townies so that their number equates to that of townies. Since the numbers of mafia are far smaller than that of town, the loss of each mafia goon is, especially at the very beginning of the game, is a bigger blow to the mafia than a loss of a townie being a blow to the town team. In case of this game, from what I've gathered, we have a 2 mafia-7 townies setup. The mafia really

cannot

allow themselves to throw any of those two under the bus, especially in the earliest stage of the game.

That being said, I shall change my vote and VOTE: Dorsey.

[Dorsey]

Can you cite which post was desperate?

[Dew]

I'm going to try to post my "thoughts" tomorrow. Currently, I'm okay with my vote on Dorsey.
I feel like they are getting pretty defensive quickly, which is prob just a playstyle?

What's wrong with my profile picture?

As it's also with this post, even though it is in the RVS.

But I do find it interesting how Dorsey kinda "pushes" me about the whole aligned thing.

I would say never knowingly aligned. Are you calling Dew scum?

And if you're saying there's '1 scum in between', which one is the scum? And how are you drawing this conclusion? And why would the scum not be Dew if she initiated the interaction?

Do you have any special connection to Dew? Is that why you're bussing her while targeting me...? I'm just spitballing here.

A few examples here ^
Need to think if that's a more town or mafia thing to do tho.

[Dorsey]

I think it's moreso about clarifying. I don't have the luxury of privileged information, which is why I ask a lot of questions about things that don't make sense (you can see that everything you quoted is a question, not an accusation). Also, my intent is to set town up for success in the instance I am eliminated by asking all the questions no one else seems interested in asking. I need the reasonings (or lack thereof) for my demise to be highlighted in stark contrast so the appropriate parties can be held accountable.