Newbie 2076 [Game Over]

[MargotRosa]

One way or another, we need to eliminate. We have had deadline extended already. Don't leave us with a no lim

[StrangeMatter]

So I'm just going to be saying this again since it's somewhat relevant but in my personal experience trying to actually catch scum with partner often ends up leading into Town making many, many mistakes over the course of a single game. My first game had this exact problem, where Town read into interactions where Lukewarm (scum) interacted with multiple people. I just feel like that partners is undeniably the most inconsistent way to catch scum and scum plays around this by dragging down town when they die as well.

I would normally agree with you, but in this instance we have a scum who was making very obvious mistakes and tells throughout d1. I'm just making the point that, given scum completely showed their hand d1, it makes some sense to look to that again when looking at interactions

That is not at all what I see looking back on the ISO. Half of your posts are from what I've read, "Strange is in my eyes scum and here's a partner reason for my case." It doesn't seem like you are drawing attention to it. Also, can you give me a good reason why you think that T3 is more likely to be town?

[StrangeMatter]

Also, I am not voting myself, that's final.

[Roden]

I'll try to review your thoughts on that again but don't wait longer than you're comfortable if you can't be here right up to the deadline.

Oh right I'm not voting. I'll be around.

I should be available up until the deadline, voting at the last couple hours just isn't ideal.

[MargotRosa]

So I'm just going to be saying this again since it's somewhat relevant but in my personal experience trying to actually catch scum with partner often ends up leading into Town making many, many mistakes over the course of a single game. My first game had this exact problem, where Town read into interactions where Lukewarm (scum) interacted with multiple people. I just feel like that partners is undeniably the most inconsistent way to catch scum and scum plays around this by dragging down town when they die as well.

I would normally agree with you, but in this instance we have a scum who was making very obvious mistakes and tells throughout d1. I'm just making the point that, given scum completely showed their hand d1, it makes some sense to look to that again when looking at interactions

That is not at all what I see looking back on the ISO. Half of your posts are from what I've read, "Strange is in my eyes scum and here's a partner reason for my case." It doesn't seem like you are drawing attention to it. Also, can you give me a good reason why you think that T3 is more likely to be town?

I mean, quite aside from everything else, do you think scum hammers their partner without a claim? I imagine that would be something you'd be a bit more careful about

[MargotRosa]

Whereas T3 being a checked out Townie becoming gradually more bored of a newbie game and hammering after checking the thread for a couple of minutes does make sense to me

[Roden]

I'll hammer in the morning if Ythan doesn't beat me to it.

[MargotRosa]

Ok, another possibility just occurred to me. I'm town, but if it turns out not to be Strange, we lose, because I don't see me not getting voted out tomorrow, and Town only has two eliminations left.

New possibility - vote me out today, no kill the next day. More or less works out to be the same thing, except you only have three people rather than 6. Less room for error

[MargotRosa]

If we can't organise to kill me today, we can no kill today and vote me out tomorrow. Again, works out to be the same thing

[MargotRosa]

If Town want to do this, I'm perfectly happy to do it as well. Feels like it could be the best possible way forward, gives town more time to think, and whittles down the possibilities

[StrangeMatter]

Yeah I think it's T3 from this point of the game. Margot and Roden have made posts that make me think they're likely flipping green here, and T3 is the last slot.

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 3.4

StrangeMatter

(3): MargotRosa, GrandpaMo, T3

MargotRosa

(1): Roden

T3

(1): StrangeMatter

Not Voting

(1): Ythan

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-07 20:30:30)

[StrangeMatter]

If we can't organise to kill me today, we can no kill today and vote me out tomorrow. Again, works out to be the same thing

Though this is actually kind of weird to say since there's only 1 person voting you, and T3 only wanted to vote you because of POE. Also no elimination is the worst thing to be doing today since scum gets away with NK and its still ELO with 1 confirmed in a playerlist of 5 people. Not to mention the complete 180 from other posts?

[StrangeMatter]

Well with 7 hours left and nobody talking someone just vote me so we don't end up not eliminating. Still don't feel like we have a good chance of catching scum in ELO if I get eliminated but oh well.

[Ythan]

Hey there.

[StrangeMatter]

Hello again, I'm going to look into the wagons again, I have a sneaking premonition about something.

[Ythan]

Oh no Strange is gonna figure out that I'm scum.

[StrangeMatter]

Oh no Ythan is scum lmao gottem ggs

In all seriousness though something that should be pointed out is that T3 and Margot were on LQ (scum), Alstro (Town Doctor), Clasko/GrandpaMo (Town), being that both were off the Egix and Alstro (who was Doctor). Then there's voting me where only I know that I won't flip red , but take that as you will though.

About Margot's point though, that scum wouldn't hammer each other without a claim doesn't at all seem like what they were even trying to go for. I feel like their play was that LQ would die, and town reads into interactions with them and tear each other apart.

[StrangeMatter]

Of course that's just a guess if T3 is the last scum if you ask me.

The biggest point towards T3 being town is the Tracker stuff that went on during Day 1, which now looking back and with the N1 No Kills seems like a Wiform moment.

[Roden]

Final call of intent to hammer. Gonna do it in about twenty minutes.

[Roden]

VOTE: Strange

[MargotRosa]

If we can't organise to kill me today, we can no kill today and vote me out tomorrow. Again, works out to be the same thing

Though this is actually kind of weird to say since there's only 1 person voting you, and T3 only wanted to vote you because of POE. Also no elimination is the worst thing to be doing today since scum gets away with NK and its still ELO with 1 confirmed in a playerlist of 5 people. Not to mention the complete 180 from other posts?

I think I'm just worked up about a successful d1 leading into an utter mess lol. We would have been fine to no kill today, because after someone got killed tonight, we'd have 5 (vote out 1), then it's ELO. We'd have had an extra day

[StrangeMatter]

Good luck in elo.

[StrangeMatter]

I seriously doubt we’re winning this now.

[T3]

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