Newbie 2078 - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 1.06

Greeting (3) -

GrandpaMo, Titus, RCEnigma

Dew (1) -

UhUhWaitAndSee

Dorsey (1) -

Greeting

TL The Legend (1) -

Dorsey

GrandpaMo (1) -

TL The Legend

Not Voting (2) -

AlwaysNever, Dew

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-09-16 19:30:00).

[Titus]

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Looks lamisty. Why are you supposing you'll flip? Do you feel scum are on your wagon?

[Titus]

VLA Sept 17th through the 20th

[TL The Legend]

So thoughts so far:
Greeting's comment is really weird when they're only at e-2, and no one else seems too willing to vote them. Post 143 seems like a classic scum tactic, that being the whole "i'm town, vote me and you'll regret it" thing. Their posts are all weird and I feel like at best, they're bad town.
Dorsey still feels weird to me but idk.
UhUh's posts are all just nonsensical to me. I can't figure out what the hell he's trying to say.
Everyone else seems town-ish, so I'm thinking scum has to be two of these three.
In light of this, I'm changing my vote to VOTE: Greeting

[TL The Legend]

And yes, I'm putting them at e-1. If you wanna hammer them, go ahead; they're more than likely scum anyway.

[Titus]

And yes, I'm putting them at e-1. If you wanna hammer them, go ahead; they're more than likely scum anyway.

Icky.

We wait for a claim before hammering. The theory is we don't want to flip a confirmable PR.

[Dorsey]

Kind of offput by AlwaysNever and Greeting's recent responses to me, but I'm traveling and in a good mood, so I'll deal with that tomorrow. I'll make sure to find a computer.

[GrandpaMo]

uh i kinda dont want to vote greeting here

[GrandpaMo]

I can smell the desperation of Dorsey to get the attention off himself. I always find this suspicious in mafia games.

What I'm about to say is obvious to (I think) everyone but I want to show my train of thought. The goal of town is to remove all of the mafia. The goal of the mafia is to remove enough townies so that their number equates to that of townies. Since the numbers of mafia are far smaller than that of town, the loss of each mafia goon is, especially at the very beginning of the game, is a bigger blow to the mafia than a loss of a townie being a blow to the town team. In case of this game, from what I've gathered, we have a 2 mafia-7 townies setup. The mafia really

cannot

allow themselves to throw any of those two under the bus, especially in the earliest stage of the game.

That being said, I shall change my vote and VOTE: Dorsey.

I don't like the tone of this post.

i agree kinda but like if u think about it more and analyze it more -- you will see what greetings talk bout . i dont think newb scum does that lol

[GrandpaMo]

So thoughts so far:
Greeting's comment is really weird when they're only at e-2, and no one else seems too willing to vote them. Post 143 seems like a classic scum tactic, that being the whole "i'm town, vote me and you'll regret it" thing. Their posts are all weird and I feel like at best, they're bad town.
Dorsey still feels weird to me but idk.
UhUh's posts are all just nonsensical to me. I can't figure out what the hell he's trying to say.
Everyone else seems town-ish, so I'm thinking scum has to be two of these three.
In light of this, I'm changing my vote to VOTE: Greeting

i thinkif greeting flips town >> the team is probably tl + dorsey?

there is a chance where dorsey is misguided town and dorsey was tvt against greeting but i would have to analyuze that more

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE: i forgot i never unvoted them/ pivoted my vote off from rvs.

lets not just quick hammer so quick yet. lets wait for a claim / reaction

[Greeting]

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Five votes are needed to vote someone out. I am at four atm.

[Greeting]

And yes, I'm putting them at e-1. If you wanna hammer them, go ahead; they're more than likely scum anyway.

Icky.

We wait for a claim before hammering. The theory is we don't want to flip a confirmable PR.

I’m going to be petty and not claim anything.

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Greeting

I has theory.
I needs sleep.
Will review tomorrow.

[RCEnigma]

If you claim we'll all massclaim, totally cross my heart.

[RCEnigma]

If always flips town then we yeet always/grandpa/tl/dew in not that particular order but it's 2/4 scum with 0 night action input. Even if we miselim D1 and d2 there's 2 scum left in the pool of 3.

On the other hand we could flip always first and if they flip red the last scum is in dew/Dorsey. Pretty confident grandpa would be town with that flip and always chainsawed them on the back of the non-aligned read.

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Looks lamisty. Why are you supposing you'll flip? Do you feel scum are on your wagon?

Is this a reply to me or the original comment?

If you were in fact replying to me, I don't get it. What they wrote did stand out - why the comment about flipping town, when they're not on the edge of elimination? I mean...it's fairly obvious that one would claim to be town, nothing to really cause one to make an outright claim as such. It's just a little odd, I haven't read too much into it.

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Five votes are needed to vote someone out. I am at four atm.

Oh sorry -- I misread the poster, for some reason. Never mind, what you wrote reads fine now.

[RCEnigma]

There were only 3 when it was originally posted? And one was an rvs vote in the first place.

[AlwaysNever]

And yes, I'm putting them at e-1. If you wanna hammer them, go ahead; they're more than likely scum anyway.

hmmm I don't like that

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Looks lamisty. Why are you supposing you'll flip? Do you feel scum are on your wagon?

I don't know why you even reply like this, nobody really voted on Uhuh yet so there's no "wagon" per se, just vague feelings and reads

And yes, I'm putting them at e-1. If you wanna hammer them, go ahead; they're more than likely scum anyway.

Icky.

We wait for a claim before hammering. The theory is we don't want to flip a confirmable PR.

I’m going to be petty and not claim anything.

I mean anyone quickhammering you right now would be probably yeeted just as quick next day anyway so you don't hafta

If

always flips town then we yeet always/grandpa/tl/dew

in not that particular order but it's 2/4 scum with 0 night action input. Even if we miselim D1 and d2 there's 2 scum left in the pool of 3.

On the other hand we could flip always first and if they flip red the last scum is in dew/Dorsey. Pretty confident grandpa would be town with that flip and always chainsawed them on the back of the non-aligned read.

how can you yeet me if I already flip town what
also why would dew be one of the last scum if I flip red? that's kinda a whuh moment to me. I kinda get why you think Dorsey would be though
I wouldn't be that confident about Grandpa if I were you, fyi
and also you used the same word Titus used in her RVS vote against me.... what if... Titus + RCE?! nah I'm reaching lmao

There were only 3 when it was originally posted? And one was an rvs vote in the first place.

yeah really man... if you guys have an RVS vote that you can't justify no more, please unvote
I'm glad GrandpaMo did, that earn brownie points to me
would be really stupid if we quickhammer someone when there's still almost a week left till deadline

[RCEnigma]

Meant greeting.

If you flip red then your push on grandpa becomes an alignment indicative association. Challenging grandpa on that read implicates one of Dorsey/dew since the intent to downplay the read is to discredit it. Which scum wouldn't have an incentive to if both were town. It makes grandpa town in that hypothetical world. He is as of right now in my Poe as I stated before.

That changes on certain flips being certain alignments so in general preflip associatives are not a good tool to build reads with.

[RCEnigma]

It's not so much dew has x associative and Dorsey has y. It's just that one would be town in the crossfire of a soft partner defense and it could be either one of them.

[Titus]

VOTE: TL the legend

That's likely either a wolfy pop on or a wolfy bus.

[Titus]

Plus the sass rarely comes from scum (could be coached but still).

[Micc]

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