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1786: most opportunistic vote there imo is the grandpa hammer. First day was deadline and second day I don't find that vote opportunistic. In your list I'd feel better voting dgb/enchant than Kazyan/Nathan.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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It concerns me as well.In post 1802, Kazyan wrote:I don't know if I'm okay with how disinterested Enchant is in scumhunting today.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Bruh.In post 1802, Kazyan wrote:I don't know if I'm okay with how disinterested Enchant is in scumhunting today.
I am disinterested for whole game, why you made this your concern just now?
??? You and Nathan both are using the "why didn't you think of this earlier" argument, and I don't know what to say to that. But, like, it'sIn post 1805, Enchant wrote:Bruh.
I am disinterested for whole game, why you made this your concern just now?
really
obvious today that you just don't care.You get how bad the position we're in is, right? gera (town) wants me (town) dead, and you (town??) just don't care about anything that's going on and your sentiment has been "roll the dice" instead of trying to solve the game.
What's going to happen is that we eliminate someone--probably another townie because I'm the town leader right now and am recycled garbage at scumhunting--and then the scumteam will convince you and/or Nathan to vote me out tomorrow and lose. Assuming you're not one of them, anyway.
What's going to happen is that we eliminate someone--probably another townie because I'm the town leader right now and am recycled garbage at scumhunting--and then the scumteam will convince you and/or Nathan to vote me out tomorrow and lose. Assuming you're not one of them, anyway.
I'm not cool with being hit up with this "why didn't you think of this earlier? Suspicious!" from two different people--active discouragement from scumhunting--and gera straight-up refusing to give a second scumread or look for a partner. You guys cannot lean on me to tell you who is scum. I never get it right unless I sheep, and people get furious when I do that. So I'm going to abdicate my position as town leader and make you guys care. VOTE: Kazyan
This is a semi-prodge, but seeing Ythan still isn't here...
VOTE: Ythan
I'll put actual energy into reading what I've missed later tonight. Thoughts from skimming are that geraintm is Town, that Enchant is worrying me, and that my instincts say Kazyan is Townie, but that I should check their Scumgame to see if they're prone to faking emotion.
I'd appreciate if you stopped self-voting. I am not in the mood for another oopsie hammer.
VOTE: Ythan
I'll put actual energy into reading what I've missed later tonight. Thoughts from skimming are that geraintm is Town, that Enchant is worrying me, and that my instincts say Kazyan is Townie, but that I should check their Scumgame to see if they're prone to faking emotion.
I'd appreciate if you stopped self-voting. I am not in the mood for another oopsie hammer.
Once again today begins this farce we call a trial.
1. Don't assume anyone as town, before he die. That's basically how most games lost.In post 1807, Kazyan wrote:You get how bad the position we're in is, right? gera (town) wants me (town) dead, and you (town??) just don't care about anything that's going on and your sentiment has been "roll the dice" instead of trying to solve the game.
What's going to happen is that we eliminate someone--probably another townie because I'm the town leader right now and am recycled garbage at scumhunting--and then the scumteam will convince you and/or Nathan to vote me out tomorrow and lose. Assuming you're not one of them, anyway.
2. Position is bad, but nothing we can't salvage, atleast we supposed to get intel for passed days. Well... Supposed is main thing. Believe me or not, but i planned to vote Andre on this day, with "A-ha, you pocketed me". Nightkill saved him.
3. I don't care yes. Sad to be my teammate, is it? Hold on, not really. Otherwise, i would simple vote Ythan as first wagon and dissapear before prod. Maybe it's look i don't care, it's not.
I remember i suggested to kill me d1. Not in this game, but really.In post 1808, Kazyan wrote:I'm not cool with being hit up with this "why didn't you think of this earlier? Suspicious!" from two different people--active discouragement from scumhunting--and gera straight-up refusing to give a second scumread or look for a partner. You guys cannot lean on me to tell you who is scum. I never get it right unless I sheep, and people get furious when I do that. So I'm going to abdicate my position as town leader and make you guys care. VOTE: Kazyan
It wented horrible. Just in case, by dying you throw game in Elo at best, and instant lose at worst.
Okay, I lied, my energy is completely sapped, I'll do my best to be here tomorrow morning. Agreed with Dwlee on the above. In the meantime:
Probably my biggest problem with Kazyan in geraintm's analysis is the vote switchiness between GrandpaMo and Ythan. Though they were upfront about their PoE, I guess... I'll think about it when I manage the brainpower.
I hate the justification "info flip". I know if comes from Town sometimes, like from GrandpaMo Yesterday, but still. What did you learn when GrandpaMo flipped green?In post 1644, Kazyan wrote:The biggest info flip right now would be GMo, so that we can properly read all of those reactions to him. Or maybe gera, with the info being "wtf is gera doing", but we don't need to know that to win the game yet.
Probably my biggest problem with Kazyan in geraintm's analysis is the vote switchiness between GrandpaMo and Ythan. Though they were upfront about their PoE, I guess... I'll think about it when I manage the brainpower.
Once again today begins this farce we call a trial.
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Okay, I've calmed down now. That's everyone who has checked in after my self-vote, besides Ythan, who is already on-wagon? Cool.
With how generally-scumread Ythan is (gera excluded), shouldn't the lack of a hammer pretty much confirm that there's scum in {Ythan, Kazyan}? If we're both town, that means there's at least one scum off-wagon, and they could just hammer, kill gera on Night 4, and then push the Day 5 wagon over Ythan by appealing to how many eliminations he's participated in.
Since I know I'm town, this confirms Ythan as scum to me. I don't want him to self-hammer just yet, so instead of voting him immediately, UNVOTE: .
See, this is good! This is cool! I want input like this, and I agree with it.In post 1816, geraintm wrote:Kazyan not getting puahed over the edge now when they could so easily be is telling to me
With how generally-scumread Ythan is (gera excluded), shouldn't the lack of a hammer pretty much confirm that there's scum in {Ythan, Kazyan}? If we're both town, that means there's at least one scum off-wagon, and they could just hammer, kill gera on Night 4, and then push the Day 5 wagon over Ythan by appealing to how many eliminations he's participated in.
Since I know I'm town, this confirms Ythan as scum to me. I don't want him to self-hammer just yet, so instead of voting him immediately, UNVOTE: .
I learned that I read the whole situation with Dwlee wrong, and so Dwlee wasn't locktown anymore, but I was banking on how if he flipped red, I'd already ruled out a bunch of partner interactions including DGB. So if GMo flipped red, gg, yeet Ythan and Andre thereafter and win.In post 1814, Nathann wrote:I hate the justification "info flip". I know if comes from Town sometimes, like from GrandpaMo Yesterday, but still. What did you learn when GrandpaMo flipped green?In post 1644, Kazyan wrote:The biggest info flip right now would be GMo, so that we can properly read all of those reactions to him. Or maybe gera, with the info being "wtf is gera doing", but we don't need to know that to win the game yet.
Probably my biggest problem with Kazyan in geraintm's analysis is the vote switchiness between GrandpaMo and Ythan. Though they were upfront about their PoE, I guess... I'll think about it when I manage the brainpower.
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Nope, still feeling like crap. I'll use the "I'm voting Ythan and he hasn't responded about his Kazyan vote yet" excuse.
Dislike the "no hammer confirms Scum between us" since not every Scum (I'd even say the majority) would have the guts to quickhammer there, knowing they'd be under pressure because of that Tomorrow. I want to say that the conviction is Townie, though?
Kazyan, is this something you'd do as Scum? Pull a self vote then argue conclusions because of not being hammered?
Dislike the "no hammer confirms Scum between us" since not every Scum (I'd even say the majority) would have the guts to quickhammer there, knowing they'd be under pressure because of that Tomorrow. I want to say that the conviction is Townie, though?
Kazyan, is this something you'd do as Scum? Pull a self vote then argue conclusions because of not being hammered?
Once again today begins this farce we call a trial.