Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Auro]

You said the vig shot can help town even from scum. Which I don't get. In a game with a couple lurkers scum keeps around, sure, but here that doesn't seem to be the case. Thor can shoot virtually anyone (save Titus per your post, and maybe Bee?) and get away with it, so it just helps scum get to their goal faster in that scenario.

[Something_Smart]

We're on evens right now. A shot doesn't decrease the number of mis-executions scum need to win.

[Something_Smart]

And, he already agreed to being leashed, so it's presumably going to be a highly-suspected player chosen by the group, who might otherwise have been executed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hrrrm

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: S_S

If Thor's off the table for today, this is where I prefer to go next. I'm not fond of his Bee vote, and he mysteriously dropped his push on Thor from day 2.

Anything else?

I'm a bit suspicious of S_S but not for the lack of a Thor push, his content just seems really forced.

Forced how?

[Flea The Magician]

sorry im here!! Im a little hesitant but mostly confident w s_s right now so i'll check everyones thoughts out tonight

Why?

[Flea The Magician]

That is... quite a lot of support for a wagon that has no reason behind it.

hyup. am concerned.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

All that aside... I don't see why CSF thinks those things I did are scummy. Like why would I push Thor right after killing the person who would have helped me with that the most?

But you're not pushing Thor... Sorry can you spell out for me why this makes you townie?

I feel like you haven't tried to sort Thor after he claimed vig. Leaving him alive until D4 is fine, but you should still be trying to read him right?

And why do I push the top person in the draft-- a guaranteed PR-- when nobody else has shown support there? What do these things

gain

me as scum?

I have this nugget of paranoia that you're role fishing. Given what we know, Bee could be holding most of the remaining town power.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: CSF

time to sit here.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Anything else?

He's also not given me much reason to townread him all game.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: CSF

time to sit here.

Why?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

sorry im here!! Im a little hesitant but mostly confident w s_s right now so i'll check everyones thoughts out tonight

Does this mean you're scum reading him or townreading?

[Auro]

Forced how?

Usually in my experience with S_S I find his content agreeable and relevant, even if not spicy. Here I feel like he's just coming up with takes that he does know are mechanically arguable, and letting the game pass by.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

His Bee vote is spicy. I'll give him that one.

[Flea The Magician]

Anything else?

He's also not given me much reason to townread him all game.

So bad vote and PoE?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: CSF

time to sit here.

Why?

[she]'s also not given me much reason to townread [her] all game.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Anything else?

He's also not given me much reason to townread him all game.

So bad vote and PoE?

And his Thor push

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: CSF

time to sit here.

Why?

[she]'s also not given me much reason to townread [her] all game.

Uh well I feel like I've definitely done more readable things than S_S. I have been trying to sort and have taken clear stances all game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Something feels off with Flea
The pressure on S_S feels inconsistent

[Flea The Magician]

I need to reread, honestly, first time off meds for a couple weeks and brain is futzy from dehydration.

I don't remember much of you, honestly, and I dislike your vote on S_S the most.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Eh okay

I think people are mostly unsure where to push right now, but I'd be lying if I didn't think the wagon on S_S built up kinda fast.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Although the fast wagon is probably just a function of "people are unsure where to push right now"

[Cat Scratch Fever]

On second thought, I'm not sure that role fishing makes sense as scum motivation for pushing bee.

Auro, why did you wait to vote SS until after Penguin voted for him?

[Something_Smart]

But you're not pushing Thor... Sorry can you spell out for me why this makes you townie?

I feel like you haven't tried to sort Thor after he claimed vig. Leaving him alive until D4 is fine, but you should still be trying to read him right?

I was pushing him yesterday, obviously I didn't know he was going

And are you reading my mind or what? Just because I'm not actively talking about Thor doesn't mean I'm not thinking about him...

[Datisi]

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