Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[ssbm_Kyouko]

That's either a lie or I visited without my own knowledge due to role.

Just to confirm, you're claiming that I only visited DGB?

yes, only DGB

[ssbm_Kyouko]

hmm

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Come to think of it you should have had some kind of watered down doc power if you inherit non-killing roles, because S_S died before N1
VOTE: Dunn

[ssbm_Kyouko]

and if you had that power I would have seen you use it. If you used it, you could have only used it on DGB, so DGB wouldn't be dead now

[Lady Lambdadelta]

please don't vote in melo

[Dunnstral]

Come to think of it you should have had some kind of watered down doc power if you inherit non-killing roles, because S_S died before N1
VOTE: Dunn

No I only got the other part of their ability. The undead thing.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

the "inherits non-killing roles" sounds believable in this setup but is a bit convenient considering there were 2 deaths last Night. If you just inherited watered-down roles I would have seen you visit both of the dead, so you'd have to claim something that wouldn't have visited Manatee. Part of Manatee's role was a double-vote though, so maybe you would have inherited a 1-shot doublevote or something if you were trueclaiming here. I also feel like with the discussion of gravedigger (the old version of the role that visits the dead passively) earlier in the game that you should have said something about your role potentially milling Trackers on D1

[ssbm_Kyouko]

UNVOTE: I'll wait for Kate claim I guess

[Dunnstral]

the "inherits non-killing roles" sounds believable in this setup but is a bit convenient considering there were 2 deaths last Night. If you just inherited watered-down roles I would have seen you visit both of the dead, so you'd have to claim something that wouldn't have visited Manatee. Part of Manatee's role was a double-vote though, so maybe you would have inherited a 1-shot doublevote or something if you were trueclaiming here. I also feel like with the discussion of gravedigger (the old version of the role that visits the dead passively) earlier in the game that you should have said something about your role potentially milling Trackers on D1

I don't understand?

[Dunnstral]

Manatee didn't die during the night

[Dunnstral]

@dunn- comments?

On the claim?

Doesn't really make sense for like, LLD's role claim. Does he inherit the mind control?
Also I have a problem with Manatee's role becoming backed up.
ALSO he backs up everything instead of the first person to die, and we have double kill on day 1.

The claim seems really sketchy to me, were you thinking back to manatee's claim in the last game?

In this post I highlight a problem with backing up LLD's role (killing role) and Manatee's role (killing role)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Titus, sorry

[Dunnstral]

Part of Manatee's role was a double-vote though, so maybe you would have inherited a 1-shot doublevote or something if you were trueclaiming here.

That's not how my role works

Titus, sorry

But Titus isn't a killing role

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Wait Titus didn't have a killing role, only reason I didn't vote immediately on your claim is I thought it was convenient you wouldn't have inherited from the other dead player, which explains why I saw you target only DGB and not DGB and Titus.

[Dunnstral]

I also feel like with the discussion of gravedigger (the old version of the role that visits the dead passively) earlier in the game that you should have said something about your role potentially milling Trackers on D1

I think you are misunderstanding something, I don't visit people who die

[Dunnstral]

Undead Magnet: You are a magnet for the undead, and abilities originating from the dead may find a way to reach you.

This is the part of S_S role that I inherited, except the wording changed so that I am the conduit for abilities originating from the dead

It may be possible that S_S indeed used an ability on DGB which I am not aware of, no feedback on my end

I bring up in 3536 that the extra vote from beyond could have come from GiF. It doesn't really make sense with what I got on my role or with S_S flipped role. The vote would just go to S_S which would be anti-town and it doesn't need to originate from me if it's just a vote. I think the way the ability transformed has some implications about the nature of the abilities the dead can use in that they are likely to be beneficial to the person it is used on.

That or SSBM is lying in mylim. I need to confirm with the mod that my role would show me as the visitor

[Cabd]

Very sick. Not gonna be here. Please no votes in xylim.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

yeah Titus isn't a killing role so you're just guilty here I'm pretty sure but I can think of a way to confirm more since we're possibly in MELO rn if GiF doesn't come back toMorrow

@the dead: If any of you (Manatee?) have a way to influence the game during the day phase (with a vote?) try to target me with it. If it hits Dunnstral, it means he really is an undead magnet. Until then we can refrain from voting there.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I also feel like with the discussion of gravedigger (the old version of the role that visits the dead passively) earlier in the game that you should have said something about your role potentially milling Trackers on D1

I think you are misunderstanding something, I don't visit people who die

specifically the PM says you

targeted

DGB so if you're saying you've checked with the mod and you don't visit/target the dead, then let's 1v1

[WhemeStar]

Very sick. Not gonna be here. Please no votes in xylim.

Hope you feel better soon.

[Kate Bishop]

UNVOTE: I'll wait for Kate claim I guess

We have a reason for wanting Cabd to say what he thinks we crumbed about our role on Day 1 before we claim.

If our not claiming right away is creating an unnecessary delay, we'll go ahead. Otherwise I'd like to wait until Cabd's feeling better.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So yeah Dunn how do you explain your targeting DGB but not Titus? Titus wasn't a killing role, you said unless you visited DGB without your own knowledge that my claim was a lie, meaning that if you are telling the truth you didnt inherit anything from Titus or you would have expected me to have seen you visit both DGB and Titus.

Additionally, if you were telling the truth about inheriting job-killing roles, you would have inherited something from Titus. Furthermore, you implied you could have caused the anonymous vote at daystart via a DGB power, and that it could have been passive, but if it was passive I think you would know you have the power?

Your claim just doesnt add up

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Non-killing* not job-killing

[ssbm_Kyouko]

UNVOTE: I'll wait for Kate claim I guess

We have a reason for wanting Cabd to say what he thinks we crumbed about our role on Day 1 before we claim.

If our not claiming right away is creating an unnecessary delay, we'll go ahead. Otherwise I'd like to wait until Cabd's feeling better.

I'm fine to wait, hoping that an undead ability will disprove Dunn's claim

[Dunnstral]

Reread my claim?

I did inherit from Titus, undead roles don't target me, I don't auto-visit dead players. I cleared up anonymous vote, that wasn't me