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[Shrek]

pagetop lets go

[Shrek]

tbh i think cakez needs to die today but sure ill look over house again

[MargotRosa]

idk how you arent able to townread the people who literally turbolimmed the mafia pr or the person who the maf tried to counterwagon to save the pr

Yes, because jumping on an obvious and unstoppable wagon steamrolling down the hill is something that only a Town would do

Honestly, I'm a bit more suspicious of people who did jump on the obvious wagon once it became obvious than those who were more uncommital

like how alch tried to sway the wagon away by voting for me when i tried to get NM to hammer?

If that was all we had on Alch, it'd be a bad reason to eliminate. Fortunately, Alch was obviously scum well before any wagon

???????

im literally giving an example of why being noncommittal doesnt mean someone is town and saying that since alch voted for me to try to sway things and not end the day then that clears me

Yes, but the point I was making is that, if the only reason we had to eliminate Alch was that they were noncommital, it would have been a bad reason to eliminate them. They were obviously scum for completely different reasons.

I'm just saying that being on, or off, a wagon isn't necessarily indicative of whether the slot is scum or town, and I seriously doubt that every scum in this game was playing to the same meta.

[Shrek]

alch wasnt noncommital though? he was actively trying to sway the wagon off lgw for any means necessary. neither him nor cakez voted for the obvscum lgw at all

[MargotRosa]

I mean, we've had a good first few days, so we have some eliminations in the back pocket. I just don't want those two early wins to derail into overconfidence, expectations of victory, and then anarchy when the initial overconfidence doesn't pay off and a surefire Town win manages to go off the rails.

[Shrek]

highly doubt that this isnt a lock win for town at least tho. we havent even lost our cop yet

[MargotRosa]

alch wasnt noncommital though? he was actively trying to sway the wagon off lgw for any means necessary. neither him nor cakez voted for the obvscum lgw at all

Don't you think that's weird though, for no one in a scum team of three people to have voted in any of the eliminations in the first two days?

I need to dig up the stats thread that was posted in the strategy sub-forums, and which I was looking through the other day. TLDR; when a scum is voted out, and elimination occured at e-n (where n > 2), well over 50% of those votes had at least one scum in them, and in many instances (e-5 for example), scum hammered their partner in around 30% of votes.

We've had two eliminations, and you're saying that the two scum (and the one scum) took part in neither?

[MargotRosa]

Here's the thread, for any other stats nerds in the thread

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=87263

[Shrek]

alch wasnt noncommital though? he was actively trying to sway the wagon off lgw for any means necessary. neither him nor cakez voted for the obvscum lgw at all

Don't you think that's weird though, for no one in a scum team of three people to have voted in any of the eliminations in the first two days?

I need to dig up the stats thread that was posted in the strategy sub-forums, and which I was looking through the other day. TLDR; when a scum is voted out, and elimination occured at e-n (where n > 2), well over 50% of those votes had at least one scum in them, and in many instances (e-5 for example), scum hammered their partner in around 30% of votes.

We've had two eliminations, and you're saying that the two scum (and the one scum) took part in neither?

i mean cakez voted alch if thats what youre trying to ask. but yes i think that the three of them were covering for each other because they didnt want to lose their power role

[House]

VOTE: SirCakes

last scum here for sure. hasnt done any scumhunting beyond starting the dgb counterwagon to try to save the strongman, doesn't really give reads, and hopped on the alch wagon as a second thought without speculation as to who his last teammate could be. dont see how it could be anyone else

Nope.

It's MargotRosa.

She ended d1 voting Alch but her vote was nowhere to be seen on d2. Instead, she just said she *would* vote. Giving him every opportunity to save himself after riding his wagon hard on d1.

VOTE: MargotRosa

[Shrek]

why would she bring alch's iso to attention in the first place tho

[Shrek]

like nobody was sring him before that

[House]

why would she bring alch's iso to attention in the first place tho

I have no clue what she's doing.

I caught that during the overnight ISO.

[Shrek]

i think cakez > margotrosa is the right play

[House]

Look at what she's doing, now.

Trying her damnedest to put hard town back in the lim pool.

That's scum shit.

[House]

She hasn't wanted to be any kind of voice in this game until just now.

That's scum shit.

[SirCakez]

I think I should die today too
But let's not rush it

[House]

I think I should die today too
But let's not rush it

I'm not moving off Margot, so they'll have to kill you without me.

[Shrek]

VOTE: margotrosa

FINE i guess ill do it

[Shrek]

margot and cakez claim or die

[Shrek]

1 scum 8 town left

no such thing as a bad trade if we can get a cc and theyre going to die anyway. i think cop is a rolecop considering titus is a fruit miller apparently so cop just has to check the one of margot/cakez who doesnt die or they get cced

[Shrek]

cakez you keep saying youre town and should die so what is your claim

[MargotRosa]

Look at what she's doing, now.

Trying her damnedest to put hard town back in the lim pool.

That's scum shit.

You are so full of it, my god.

I am Town. I'm not role claiming unless people really want to press me on it.

This push by House is some straw clutching bull. I'm very on the same track as other people in this thread, and have been basically of one mind with Titus since mid d1

[MargotRosa]

ACtually, nah, fuck it, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, and I want everyone to be on the same page with respect to how crap House's push right here is.

Friendly neighbour. Visited Titus n1, and T3 n2.

[Shrek]

VOTE: cakez