T3's Micro Normal Review, September 2021

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hi
Can I please get an 8 player micro normal reviewed? I'll run it in the micro queue.
Setup:
Town Babysitter
Town 1-shot Watcher
4 VT

2 Mafia Goons

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Primary: RadiantCowbells
Secondary: Isis

[RadiantCowbells]

well

this is pretty scumsided as is, like babysitter is an omega swingy role but even if, say, babysitter kills a mafia there's still not many clears for town but there's also the fact that if babysitter is forced to claim like D1 and watcher doesn't claim that's actually really good for town? and just overall I'm not really enthused about either the balance or how things work mechanically since the game does effectively have only 1 ML a lot of the rime

How open would you be to adding a VT and making it a one shot cop instead because i think that's both healthier design wise in terms of preventing scum from having really bad outcomes when 1 pr outs D1 and it's also better balanced since the trade-off for day 2 mylo is having a cop check in play

if that's not something you're keen on then, like, first step is to add a VT and second step is to give the watcher extra charges, and it's still mildly unhealthy design in my opinion but it's passable

If keeping it at 8p is something you're really keen on then i think it's better to switch the babysitter for a 1-shot vig bc the amount of swing that the babysitter currently produces in 8p is just trolling extremely toxic, like if the babysitter targets a town read and gets shot then town winrate is likely close to zero

[RadiantCowbells]

So i can't pass it is as is but I'll offer to pass any of

VT
VT
VT
VT
VT
Babysitter
2-Shot Watcher
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

or

VT
VT
VT
VT
VT
Babysitter
1-Shot Cop
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Or

VT
VT
VT
VT
1-Shot Vigilante
1-Shot Watcher
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

[RadiantCowbells]

If you'd rather do something else lmk

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh and if you go with the watcher babysitter one I'd actually advise that you run it open since scum are going to be livid if they get get baited into a guilty or even a protected watcher

[T3]

Probably the last setup because the point of babysitter in the setup was for the possibility of 2 kills to happen.
Thanks!

[Isis]

Last setup looks alright.
Scum getting the vig to e1 can be a little no-good-deed-unpunished but with the stronger scum partner only eluding a reduced number of lims that should be fine.

[T3]

ty
can i enter it into signups?

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Oh yeah I didn't realize you hadn't /in'd to mod - the norm with normal games (even in the micro queue i think) is to /in to mod when you send the setup over. So yeah, feel free to /in.

[RadiantCowbells]

Last setup looks alright.
Scum getting the vig to e1 can be a little no-good-deed-unpunished but with the stronger scum partner only eluding a reduced number of lims that should be fine.

eh

spies should always quickhammer that if they know what they're doing

[RadiantCowbells]

i can do role pms if you want them, otherwise you can make them and i'll look them over

[T3]

oh yeah, role pms

[T3]

Welcome, you are a Town 1-shot Vigilante.

Each night you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Town 1-shot Watcher.

Each night you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who targeted that player that night.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Mafia Goon.

You share a factional PT with your partner, [player (Mafia Goon)]. Each night one member of the mafia may target a player. Assuming no interference with you action, that player will die.

You win when the mafia outnumber the town or nothing can prevent that.

[RadiantCowbells]

v good pass

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait I'm an idiot

Rephrase to once per.game in both the one shots

[T3]

Welcome, you are a Town 1-shot Vigilante.

Once per game you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Town 1-shot Watcher.

Once per game you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who targeted that player that night.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Welcome, you are a Mafia Goon.

You share a factional PT with your partner, [player (Mafia Goon)]. Each night one member of the mafia may target a player. Assuming no interference with you action, that player will die.

You win when the mafia outnumber the town or nothing can prevent that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Paws