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[Not_Mafia]

I’m a Miller btw

[T3]

VOTE: T3

One of these days I'll be right. Going by the math

never

[T3]

I’m a Miller btw

Same here! Don't we also have a masonry? Why haven't you posted in there?

[T3]

VOTE: T3

One of these days I'll be right. Going by the math

Sounds like you two have history. Anything we should know about T3's town game? I trust that you'll be able to read them particularly well.. unless..

Margot Roden and I were in an f3 that ended yesterday, Margot instavoted me and Roden quickhammered.

[Datisi]

@mewtaph, well then, let me know when you're ready to fully explain your first vote. if nothing i'm curious, and it seems like it will be easier to read you once that is out.

part of me is wondering why you chose to use the opening you're aware has increased potential to send votes your way, when you also apparently don't do well under pressure, but i'm not sure if i can call this "contradiction" scummy. surely scum!you would think of not making that post in the first place.

[Datisi]

I’m a Miller btw

spicy. is this a serious claim? i'm guessing it is, since i've never seen n_m troll by claiming miller, but to make sure.

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.1

Mewtaph (3) :

Datisi ; ChaosOmega ; Roden

Salsabil Faria (2) :

Datsi ; Mewtaph

T3 (1) :

MargotRosa

Datisi (1) :

Salsabil Faria

Roden (1) :

Dwlee99

Not_Mafia (1) :

Not_Mafia

Not voting (4) :

Aristeia - ssbm_Kyouko - T3 - innocentvillager

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-30 20:18:31) or when a wagon reaches majority at 7 votes

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[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: salsabil faria
omgus

I didn’t vote you lol

[Salsabil Faria]

Hey everyone.

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

Applying additional pressure here. Results of said pressure to be determined.

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: T3

One of these days I'll be right. Going by the math

Sounds like you two have history. Anything we should know about T3's town game? I trust that you'll be able to read them particularly well.. unless..

TMIing something??

[Salsabil Faria]

I have to admit, I saw that one coming. Naked votes don't give me much to personally work off of, though.

Ok, how about

I think you're TMIing which I find scummy atp thus vote you

sounds?

UNVOTE: Datisi

VOTE: Mewtaph

[Salsabil Faria]

Also, you're getting the

pressure

you think I should get which is ironically funny atm

[Salsabil Faria]

alright, here's something to work off of:

10 was wordy in a way that's (in my opinion) more likely to come from scum, but it's so *slightly* more more likely to come from scum that it might as well just be personality, and i don't know you, so it's nai overall.

12 however, seems forced. it was made 40 minutes after 10, meaning that you had read 3 at the time you first posted in the thread, but chose not to say anything about it - implying 12 wasn't your first though when you read 3, and instead it was thought of 40 minutes later. considering noting much happened from 10 to 12, it gives off an impression that you wish to give off the appearance of solviness rather than actually being solvy naturally, if going by the assumption that a town player wishing to solve would've immediately thought of writing 12.

furthermore, 12 sets up some future expectations for margot and t3. while it potentially could be some sort of reaction test, to me it reads more as posturing for potential future pushes around those two players. especially since it seems like you don't know either of them - why would you be putting trust in margot to read t3 correctly then?

considering you said you saw votes coming, it means you're at least on some level aware you're coming off as slightly scummy now. whether it's because you're a town player who's aware of how he's coming across, or a scum player who's tmi-ing his own alignment, remains to be seen. i don't know your skill level - if you're a more skilled player, i'd be slightly more likely to assume the former, if not, i'd assume the latter.

and finally, the fact that omega voted you gives me vaguely positive vibes from him, since if he's arrived at the same conclusion that i did ("mewtaph is worthy of a vote"), that slightly increases the odds that omega and i had a similar thought process getting there, and as i am town, it makes him slightly more likely than random to also be town in my eyes.

i can't believe i paused my game to type up page 1 analysis that's likely to be worthless by the time we hit page 5, but here we are.

pedit: or that. maybe that would've been a better idea to post.

Jeez, since when you become the hard nerd

[Salsabil Faria]

@ChaosOmega: I don't know about likely to get votes, but talking about pressure in the way that I did in my first post does create a potential scenario for votes to come in my direction. Said scenario happened, now the way that it happened being AI or not is up for debate (I'll hold off on commenting on that for now).

10 is a bit directed and selfish for my own read purposes, I'm not going to overjustify it this early on. It is a vote and it is perhaps an easy justification for a vote. When it comes to pretty much every game, I want the game to move away from RVS which is why I made that vote the way that I did.

@Datisi: 12 may seem forced. However, more posts as far as I'm concerned brings the game in a direction further away from RVS which is the spirit of what I created 12 in. I do anticipate how it can come off as forced solvy but prior to that point the thread was still in RVS. 12 wasn't on my mind when I made 10. Looking for spaces to squeeze potential areas to move away from RVS, however, it seeme a reasonable place to start ias any n addition to my first vote to try and get the game state moving.

Do you want the towncred now?

[Mewtaph]

Also, you're getting the

pressure

you think I should get which is ironically funny atm

It's not really funny because you're taking it "poorly", as in adding unnecessary comments/gestures such as yawning at my vote post. Nothing to yawn about a vote, and I haven't yawned at anyone voting me. Evidently I think you're more likely to be town than not because I don't think mafia!you steps on my toes as boldly as you have but I've been wrong before. Don't think I'm wrong here though. Of all reactions I could have gotten yours is at least AI.

[Salsabil Faria]

I don't think that I do particularly well under pressure as either alignment, to be honest. At least, it's harder to be analytical-solvy when you're the biggest wagon in the game.

Don’t get it why you need to say this. I also don't do well under the pressure but it should be NAI imo.

[Salsabil Faria]

I’m a Miller btw

Should I believe this??

[Salsabil Faria]

Also, you're getting the

pressure

you think I should get which is ironically funny atm

It's not really funny because you're taking it "poorly", as in adding unnecessary comments/gestures such as yawning at my vote post. Nothing to yawn about a vote, and I haven't yawned at anyone voting me. Evidently I think you're more likely to be town than not because I don't think mafia!you steps on my toes as boldly as you have but I've been wrong before. Don't think I'm wrong here though. Of all reactions I could have gotten yours is at least AI.

The vote on me wasn’t poor but the reasoning is... It could be RVS without it but you shown (or trying to show) that you started the game seriously from your 1st post gives me :thonk:

And I use emoji often, it’s my style...
isn’t unnecessary comment, that's what I felt when I see your 10.

[Datisi]

VOTE: T3

One of these days I'll be right. Going by the math

Sounds like you two have history. Anything we should know about T3's town game? I trust that you'll be able to read them particularly well.. unless..

TMIing something??

what could he even be tmi-ing there?

[Mewtaph]

@Salsabil Faria: Sure. I know that voting somebody with a reason of "applying pressure" is redundant. I got what I wanted out of the vote, which was a reaction out of you. I feel confident enough in my town lean on you to move my vote.

VOTE: Roden
I didn't know the game was bastard...

This vote is essentially null. I'd like to see you move your vote sometime soon (even if that person happens to be me). This vote could just as easily gone to T3 in my eyes.

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Datisi]

Evidently I think you're more likely to be town than not because I don't think mafia!you steps on my toes as boldly as you have but I've been wrong before.

in what way does salsa's posts towards you make you think it's unlikely to be scum stepping on toes, that doesn't make you feel so from me/omega?

also, can was there a reason you picked her - taking a cursory glance at your topics, i don't see you've played together before?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: T3

One of these days I'll be right. Going by the math

Sounds like you two have history. Anything we should know about T3's town game? I trust that you'll be able to read them particularly well.. unless..

TMIing something??

what could he even be tmi-ing there?

That they know somehow

MR

is town?
If

MR

and

T3

both have history together, they why they choose to believe

MR

only... that's how 12 read in my head.

[Salsabil Faria]

@Salsabil Faria: Sure. I know that voting somebody with a reason of "applying pressure" is redundant. I got what I wanted out of the vote, which was a reaction out of you. I feel confident enough in my town lean on you to move my vote.

VOTE: Roden
I didn't know the game was bastard...

This vote is essentially null. I'd like to see you move your vote sometime soon (even if that person happens to be me). This vote could just as easily gone to T3 in my eyes.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Great! You're also one of the people I most probably can't read in the game
Are you

House

's alt?

[Mewtaph]

Evidently I think you're more likely to be town than not because I don't think mafia!you steps on my toes as boldly as you have but I've been wrong before.

in what way does salsa's posts towards you make you think it's unlikely to be scum stepping on toes, that doesn't make you feel so from me/omega?

also, can was there a reason you picked her - taking a cursory glance at your topics, i don't see you've played together before?

It felt unnecessarily stand-offish. Scum can accomplish the same outcome (ie. reaching the conclusion of voting me) without navigating it the way that they did.

I chose her because of all places I could place my vote at the time, 1) this applied genuine pressure at the time, 2 votes being the largest wagon possible. This limited my options to a few people already. From there, I guess you could say it's a guessing game. I could be wrong about my read, as I have gotten similar reactions from both town and mafia. It depends on how things develop from here.

[Salsabil Faria]

also, can was there a reason you picked her - taking a cursory glance at your topics, i don't see you've played together before?

I also want to know