Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[the worst]

Spoiler: mfw i'm townreading alisae

[imaginality]

Am I likelier the 8ball than I am wagoned-scum?

Are the two worlds mutually exlusive? (Could I be scum and 8ball)?

You dont feel like scum so yes

I dont think scum go for that route so early but if you flipped scum I could consider it

We'd know if Taly were the 8-ball, as the rules clearly say the 8-ball will flip as 8-ball if eliminated. And besides, whether or not the mod announces it, it'll be obvious by whether scum get a kill that night.

All of which is to say the "if you flipped scum I could consider it" seems more likely to me to come from scum talking to town than from town. Scum talking to town know the first part of the statement ("if you flip scum" can't occur so are more likely to give a careless consequence "I could consider it", compared with town who believe it's a genuine possibility to consider.

VOTE: Wisdom

In other news, Taly's recent posts make me lean town on him, seems like genuine reasoning/questions and the miscount of the votes on him seems more likely to come from two than scum. Also #78 where he raises the possibility he's scum rather than 8-ball.

[Hiraki]

I'm not really following the above but it seems like you're saying something smart but it's just not clicking for me. Can you go a little more bite-sized?

[Bingle]

I think it’s saying that if we flip Taly we’ll know whether Taly is the eight ball and scumWisdom tried to fake uninformed about something townWisdom would actually know.

[Bingle]

Spoiler: mfw i'm townreading alisae

VOTE: ali

Spoiler:

(sorry i didn't look for a better pic)

You are feeling very red m&m, aren’t you? Are you being a cheeky worst?

[Wisdom]

We'd know if Taly were the 8-ball, as the rules clearly say the 8-ball will flip as 8-ball if eliminated. And besides, whether or not the mod announces it, it'll be obvious by whether scum get a kill that night.

All of which is to say the "if you flipped scum I could consider it" seems more likely to me to come from scum talking to town than from town. Scum talking to town know the first part of the statement ("if you flip scum" can't occur so are more likely to give a careless consequence "I could consider it", compared with town who believe it's a genuine possibility to consider.

You're right, I don't consider Taly flipping scum a real possibility which is why I didn't run the simulation in my head and didn't realize he'd flip 8ball

[Hiraki]

I think it’s saying that if we flip Taly we’ll know whether Taly is the eight ball and scumWisdom tried to fake uninformed about something townWisdom would actually know.

I get the beginning - the ending is where I'm thrown off. Why is this a town v/s scumWisdom information thing?

[imaginality]

I'm not really following the above but it seems like you're saying something smart but it's just not clicking for me. Can you go a little more bite-sized?

1. "if you flipped scum I could consider [that you might be 8-ball]" is something I think scum (talking to a townie who they know won't flip scum) are more likely to say than an uninformed townie would, so I voted Wisdom for it

2. Taly wouldn't be as likely to make the "am I more likely 8-ball or could I be scum" comment as scum (he'd be happy to be read as 8-ball), so I townread him for that plus recent posts in general

I think it’s saying that if we flip Taly we’ll know whether Taly is the eight ball and scumWisdom tried to fake uninformed about something townWisdom would actually know.

That's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike

tea[/] what I meant.

You're right, I don't consider Taly flipping scum a real possibility which is why I didn't run the simulation in my head and didn't realize he'd flip 8ball

Wisdom admits not considering Taly as scum. So it's up to the rest of you whether you think that's because Taly is so obvtown, or because Wisdom is scum and knows Taly is town.

[imaginality]

Aw my HHGG quote got mangled.

[Taly]

We'd know if Taly were the 8-ball, as the rules clearly say the 8-ball will flip as 8-ball if eliminated. And besides, whether or not the mod announces it, it'll be obvious by whether scum get a kill that night.

All of which is to say the "if you flipped scum I could consider it" seems more likely to me to come from scum talking to town than from town. Scum talking to town know the first part of the statement ("if you flip scum" can't occur so are more likely to give a careless consequence "I could consider it", compared with town who believe it's a genuine possibility to consider.

You're right, I don't consider Taly flipping scum a real possibility which is why I didn't run the simulation in my head and

didn't realize he'd flip 8ball

Was there a typo here? I need you to clarify

Wisdom

.

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As for whether I think

Alisae

is town? I have a pretty half-baked read on them that I'm rectifying.

This doesn't feel historically like what I've encountered as scum from them. However, their recent post begs to differ.

I also doubt they're a partner to

Hiraki

, who I do currently scumread. I doubt that scum will find themselves on the same wagon much in this setup. My wagon doesn't have the traction for them to eliminate me. Plus

Alisae

needs to try much harder to take me down

The slot has been inoffensive. I'm watching them.

For context, I have hydra'd with

Ali

as both alignments and have played with them solo when they've been both alignments. So they're right up there with

the worst

in terms of my familiarity in mafia.

[Taly]

This doesn't feel historically like what I've encountered as scum from them. However, their recent post begs to differ.

Oh this may be unclear

I mean that

Alisae

would probably disagree that I lean town on them via meta. Not that I suddenly suspect them anymore than usual.

[Wisdom]

Was there a typo here? I need you to clarify Wisdom.

No

[Momrangal]

Location: Bad Player Jail

Mom, Ali is bullying me. Make em stop.

._.

I do owe you this

ANYWAY

I agree that I'm not 8-ball

Wisdom is ringing town here LEGASP

[Wisdom]

Buddying me already?
Practically inviting me to revote you

[Momrangal]

I think it’s saying that if we flip Taly we’ll know whether Taly is the eight ball and scumWisdom tried to fake uninformed about something townWisdom would actually know.

????

[Momrangal]

Buddying me already?
Practically inviting me to revote you

If you think that's best. I dont mind getting cozy with an old pal

[Wisdom]

Fine I don't wanna tunnel you like old times
Get on Ali and I'll consider townreading you

[Momrangal]

I think Wisdom is scum and Momrangal is the 8 ball. wbu?

I had a very weak thought of

Mom

-8ball but everybody in the thread posted between my vote on her and my post a few moments ago. Nobody seemed to want the wagon.

If you think

Wisdom

is scum, why not join

Imaginality

?

Hmmm...

I think I prefer Taly or duckie here.

Duckie moreso, their post on you v me was a joke seems like a weird backtrack

[Momrangal]

VOTE: the worst

I'm going all in

[Wisdom]

Taly and duck are town
Youre not helping me townread you

[Wisdom]

Duck explained his 32 later btw, it obviously wasn't serious

[Momrangal]

Uif Taly thought I could be 8ball, why vote the 8ball

[Wisdom]

Like both of the posts you quoted are signs of town motivation

[Wisdom]

Uif Taly thought I could be 8ball, why vote the 8ball

He voted you in rvs and thought you could be it way later
What are you talking about

[Momrangal]

I had a very weak thought of

Mom

-8ball but everybody in the thread posted between my vote on her and my post a few moments ago. Nobody seemed to want the wagon.

If you think

Wisdom

is scum, why not join

Imaginality

?

This was literally a page after?