imagine needing to spam in order to be heardIn post 270, T3 wrote:imagine not hyperposting
I think I remember that game, it was pretty stupid iircIn post 272, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: pedit: Mewtaph I haven't formed a read yet. I think I was scum with him a long time ago either in a newbie or a micro so I'll be looking into that at some point. I'm inclined to townlean just because of the wagon on him but that's not good enough to take him off the table D1 so I'll still have to read.
I don't want to get stuck on something that happened on page 2-3. All I'll say is this: I think we're referring to different types of pressure here. I got what I wanted out of my vote, arguably more than I bargained for since we seemed to have moved out of RVS almost immediately after that post. If this causes others to scumread me then fine.In post 271, ChaosOmega wrote:Placing a 2nd vote on someone on page 1 with the reason "Applying additional pressure here. Results of said pressure to be determined" does not apply "genuine pressure". Your last game I see, you were town and entered the game with a naked vote on a building wagon. That can actually build pressure. What you've done this game looks fake.In post 48, Mewtaph wrote:It felt unnecessarily stand-offish. Scum can accomplish the same outcome (ie. reaching the conclusion of voting me) without navigating it the way that they did.In post 45, Datisi wrote:in what way does salsa's posts towards you make you think it's unlikely to be scum stepping on toes, that doesn't make you feel so from me/omega?In post 39, Mewtaph wrote:Evidently I think you're more likely to be town than not because I don't think mafia!you steps on my toes as boldly as you have but I've been wrong before.
also, can was there a reason you picked her - taking a cursory glance at your topics, i don't see you've played together before?
I chose her because of all places I could place my vote at the time, 1) this applied genuine pressure at the time, 2 votes being the largest wagon possible. This limited my options to a few people already. From there, I guess you could say it's a guessing game. I could be wrong about my read, as I have gotten similar reactions from both town and mafia. It depends on how things develop from here.
On an unrelated note Mewtaph, what do you think of Margot?
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ssbm, what is your read on Mewtaph, and what are your thoughts on the iv wagon forming?
@margotIn post 225, Datisi wrote:was this a stylistic choice or did you forget to complete the read on this slot?In post 199, MargotRosa wrote:ssbm_Kyouko
Has come out swinging in about four different directions in very rapid succession. Unclear if trigger happy or
yes and no - i know iv *hates* playing scum, and yesterday me/dwlee/datsi/iv all came out of a game where iv was scum soloing and he hated it so. my guess is that if he rolled scum twice in a row, it's likely he's exhausted from it and has no willpower to post.In post 254, Salsabil Faria wrote:What do you mean? They're silent as scum?In post 213, Datisi wrote:this was my idea for voting him the first time, ik he was around the site and i guessed he would've at least popped in as townIn post 204, Dwlee99 wrote:IV no post
VOTE: innocentvillager
See this sucks because I don't want to read IV this way but also I can't ignore thisIn post 286, Datisi wrote:yes and no - i know iv *hates* playing scum, and yesterday me/dwlee/datsi/iv all came out of a game where iv was scum soloing and he hated it so. my guess is that if he rolled scum twice in a row, it's likely he's exhausted from it and has no willpower to post.
there's been times where i rolled scum multiple games in a row and it made me want to move to the mountains with no access to internet, but it happens sometimes and it's a sucks2bu situation and it sucks overall but like, i can't simply just ignore it because i've seen first hand how much iv hates playing scum soIn post 287, Dwlee99 wrote:See this sucks because I don't want to read IV this way but also I can't ignore thisIn post 286, Datisi wrote:yes and no - i know iv *hates* playing scum, and yesterday me/dwlee/datsi/iv all came out of a game where iv was scum soloing and he hated it so. my guess is that if he rolled scum twice in a row, it's likely he's exhausted from it and has no willpower to post.
This makes a lot of sense and feels like a very townie analysis.In post 288, Datisi wrote:to clear up the thing in 272:
i expressed myself a bit confusingly in 215. at the time of making both 215/208, i did believe you were making up your conviction about t3 being scum because of the fakeclaim (i no longer necessarily think so, mainly bc of your ic push, but that's besides the point right now). 215 isn't a contradiction to that, it was meant to be taken as "i think that kyouko, if she's scum, believes her t3 push to be townie-looking, therefore the'she's not scum because she doesn't care about how she looks'read doesn't apply to her there".
like, me saying "she was convinced her push was great and made sense" meant that i thought you believed that push would make sense from an outside perspective and would make people townread you / not think you're shitpushing,notthat you genuinely believed t3 was scum because of his fakeclaim.
not in particularIn post 284, Roden wrote:Are you scum
I just had four newbie scum games in a row so I can definitely attest to this mindset. I like playing scum but it's so mentally draining to roll scum multiple times in a row.In post 291, Datisi wrote:there's been times where i rolled scum multiple games in a row and it made me want to move to the mountains with no access to internet, but it happens sometimes and it's a sucks2bu situation and it sucks overall but like, i can't simply just ignore it because i've seen first hand how much iv hates playing scum soIn post 287, Dwlee99 wrote:See this sucks because I don't want to read IV this way but also I can't ignore thisIn post 286, Datisi wrote:yes and no - i know iv *hates* playing scum, and yesterday me/dwlee/datsi/iv all came out of a game where iv was scum soloing and he hated it so. my guess is that if he rolled scum twice in a row, it's likely he's exhausted from it and has no willpower to post.
i know it's not a slam-dunk because town!iv also sometimes lurks and real-life is a thing and blah blah but like, i can't just ignore it >_>
same tbhIn post 295, Roden wrote:I just had four newbie scum games in a row so I can definitely attest to this mindset. I like playing scum but it's so mentally draining to roll scum multiple times in a row.In post 291, Datisi wrote:there's been times where i rolled scum multiple games in a row and it made me want to move to the mountains with no access to internet, but it happens sometimes and it's a sucks2bu situation and it sucks overall but like, i can't simply just ignore it because i've seen first hand how much iv hates playing scum soIn post 287, Dwlee99 wrote:See this sucks because I don't want to read IV this way but also I can't ignore thisIn post 286, Datisi wrote:yes and no - i know iv *hates* playing scum, and yesterday me/dwlee/datsi/iv all came out of a game where iv was scum soloing and he hated it so. my guess is that if he rolled scum twice in a row, it's likely he's exhausted from it and has no willpower to post.
i know it's not a slam-dunk because town!iv also sometimes lurks and real-life is a thing and blah blah but like, i can't just ignore it >_>
This post is reading way too deep into stuffIn post 17, Datisi wrote:alright, here's something to work off of:
10 was wordy in a way that's (in my opinion) more likely to come from scum, but it's so *slightly* more more likely to come from scum that it might as well just be personality, and i don't know you, so it's nai overall.
12 however, seems forced. it was made 40 minutes after 10, meaning that you had read 3 at the time you first posted in the thread, but chose not to say anything about it - implying 12 wasn't your first though when you read 3, and instead it was thought of 40 minutes later. considering noting much happened from 10 to 12, it gives off an impression that you wish to give off the appearance of solviness rather than actually being solvy naturally, if going by the assumption that a town player wishing to solve would've immediately thought of writing 12.
furthermore, 12 sets up some future expectations for margot and t3. while it potentially could be some sort of reaction test, to me it reads more as posturing for potential future pushes around those two players. especially since it seems like you don't know either of them - why would you be putting trust in margot to read t3 correctly then?
considering you said you saw votes coming, it means you're at least on some level aware you're coming off as slightly scummy now. whether it's because you're a town player who's aware of how he's coming across, or a scum player who's tmi-ing his own alignment, remains to be seen. i don't know your skill level - if you're a more skilled player, i'd be slightly more likely to assume the former, if not, i'd assume the latter.
and finally, the fact that omega voted you gives me vaguely positive vibes from him, since if he's arrived at the same conclusion that i did ("mewtaph is worthy of a vote"), that slightly increases the odds that omega and i had a similar thought process getting there, and as i am town, it makes him slightly more likely than random to also be town in my eyes.
i can't believe i paused my game to type up page 1 analysis that's likely to be worthless by the time we hit page 5, but here we are.
pedit: or that. maybe that would've been a better idea to post.