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[Dwlee99]

I think the hop on mewtaph is opportunistic, your posts thus far are shorter than I expect to see out of town!you, though maybe it's too
early to tell on that front.

I also feel like you sort of egged on the vote on T3 but when datisi began questioning it you big dipped on the thread. This could be a coincidence though and primarily I'm voting you because the mewtaph vote looks opportunistic.

Kyo made a decent case for scum! Roden earlier

[innocentvillager]

I thought I explained it I liked roden’s unvote and mention of NM?

haven’t really looked at that slot much tho

why you ask?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm... I want to see what Mew's response for this. Their play style is confusing to me. But I agree, I also felt that they wanted the towncred for moving the game forward from the RVS but at the same time, it attracts attention
where I can't wrapping my head around it. If they're gamble type scum players, then it makes sense ig.

I feel like I've responded to the parts I can really respond to as best as I can, but if there's anything in particular that you want me to address, feel free to point me in that direction.

Speaking of Mewtaph, specifically what I found in his meta is that as scum he has made a big deal of getting the game out of RVS.

Like, this is as far as I can really respond up to. This honestly reads more like just what I did this game except I don't really care about it either (leaving RVS, yes, great, but "claiming" that for towncred or as what good has come out of my posts I don't really give a shit about).

It was a newbie game from a long time ago but he hasn't played many games. I think he's still new to scum and that this is still a viable tell. *puts on a tinfoil hat* Now for the juicy bit. Datisi coming into the game swinging on Mewtaph's opener could be a partner interaction. My theory is that Mewtaph came into the PT and voiced that he is new and/or uncomfortable playing scum. Datisi strikes me as a good scum player (have not metad them yet, but I get the vibe from their posting that they would be good at it), and I think that they could have planned for Datisi to make the push early and veer off in order to discourage wagons later in D1 and build cred for Datisi at the same time.

This is a scenario specific to a scum!me and scum!Datisi scenario, so in other words largely a waste of time unless they're planning on pushing that further on D1.

I feel like when someone was a wagon early and their wagon dissipates that town is often hesitant to revisit the first wagon unless they've exhausted other scumreads and realized "hey, my original read might have been right because all these other players I've tried to pressure today are towntelling."

All that said, Datisi could have just sniped Mewtaph's ass and I'm not convinced Datisi is scum with Mewtaph. Just wanted to share this.

This is more of a general statement and one that even I'd agree with, except I don't think that there's any hesitation when it comes to people voting my slot lol.

I do like 420 though in terms of Kyouko being town but 382 alone doesn't really convince me that they're town. Though in any case I don't think I'm the target audience of these posts anyway.

Regarding the bold - I said just after that in the same post I do think it's possible Datisi just made that read as town, you even quoted it: "Datisi could have just sniped Mewtaph's ass and I'm not convinced Datisi is scum with Mewtaph." I don't think it's a waste of time to post it. I'm having some degree of paranoia on Datisi's early post about you that I think is probably unwarranted, but I'm always* going to share something like this because I'm thinking it.

*unless I'm hiding it on purpose to be revealed later after I've formed a stronger read, like I did to Gamma in Radio Buzz. Probably not going to try that again for a while, it didn't work all that well.

As for the audience bit, these posts are for everyone. They're not directed at you, sure, but I'm reading your responses.

[Dwlee99]

I thought I explained it I liked roden’s unvote and mention of NM?

haven’t really looked at that slot much tho

why you ask?

Read 2 lol

[ssbm_Kyouko]

L****. plans.

We don't use that word on site anymore

[Mewtaph]

L****. plans.

We don't use that word on site anymore

Oh, okay.

[Mewtaph]

Sooo that flashwagon happened and I'm reading IV as pretty hard town after that.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

yeah, iv's use of the term shotgun reads pinged me for parroting so I searched his ego and he's only used it once before, also in a game with Datisi, also he was using the term to reference Datisi's usage of the term. They were both town.

[Dwlee99]

Kyo the way you do meta is so infuriating

[ssbm_Kyouko]

hmm

[Dwlee99]

Your entire paragraph is

divorced

from what I was saying

This feels unnatural, like when scum searches for a powerful word to drive a point home. A quick ego search reveals you haven't used the term before. Why now?

Weary

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was considering aristea, but then I realized if IV was really catching up he would have already seen me missing post 2's IC reveal

[ssbm_Kyouko]

HMMMMMMMMMM

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was considering aristea, but then I realized if IV was really catching up he would have already seen me missing post 2's IC reveal

iv how do you plead?

[Datisi]

yeah, iv's use of the term shotgun reads pinged me for parroting so I searched his ego and he's only used it once before, also in a game with Datisi, also he was using the term to reference Datisi's usage of the term. They were both town.

i'm probably about to go off at iv myself but like in what universe is that scum!indicative? or town!indicative for that matter? even if he had never heard that term before, saw me use it, and decided to use it himself, how does that potentially reveal anything about his or my own alignment here?

[Salsabil Faria]

i'm a bit busy for the next 4-5 hours so i'll properly read and respond to all the posts then (i've skimmed a bit), but i wanted to out a hot take in the meantime:

iv is likely scum. the fact that he hasn't returned from his catching up yet from yesterday (and that catchup was like 5 pages with non-explained reads? lol) is indicative that he doesn't want to be in this game. and as much as it pains me to say, if iv is red, aristeia is somewhat likely to be a partner. mainly because her reads seem to be kind of consensus-y/yeetbaity players, but there's absolutely no mention of iv anywhere, who i think would fit that description rn. her last game with me made me think she's anti bus, so i could see her be trying to divert attention from iv here.

Does

iv

do this all of their scum games? If so then it’s playing against the wincon?

[Datisi]

if you want me to vote iv you need but ask

i don't *want* you to vote iv, i want to see what you say about him without my direct prompting, and it seemed like that answer was "nothing"

did you have no thoughts on him prior to his posting on the last page?

[Salsabil Faria]

you are so silly datisi

if you want me to vote iv you need but ask

VOTE: iv

i would do anything for you

[Salsabil Faria]

Mewtaph’s posts seem kind of secretive which is +town

Not following?

[Datisi]

fun fact, that is the third time someone called me Darius on this site
also stop it

VOTE: InnocentVillager

That's e-1. What's your role?

i usually hate using the word, but this actually feels a bit opportunistic, especially with n_m in game. were you suddenly fine with ending the day?

[Salsabil Faria]

Mind meld 2.0

Yeah tell me, what is happening with us!?

[Salsabil Faria]

I’m a Miller btw

spicy. is this a serious claim? i'm guessing it is, since i've never seen n_m troll by claiming miller, but to make sure.

Yes, I’m serious, and don’t call me Shirley

Where? Don't remember.

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: innocentvillager

wtf tbh
VOTE: iv

Dude! You're susing

Mew

at the same time sheeping their vote is very ???????

Oh I’m dumb I was trying to vote new there.

Then why not changing the vote???

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: innocentvillager

VOTE: InnocentVillager

That's e-1. What's your role?

Explain please....

[Datisi]

ok i'm gonna cram a response to iv's 570-573 here:

that's not the basis for your push, the basis was that you were gone from the game for 2 days, returned with lukewarm unexplained takes, then dipped again. that's just adding fuel to the fire. why could i not think that you're just scum here? you mean, after 9:12 where you were similarly often dipping towards the end and where you made sure to tell us how much you hate playing scum, you're suddenly *surprised* that i think your absence is scum!indicative for you?

afair, you were always active during my late afternoon to night into morning. maybe it just so happened that yesterday you were busy, which like, it's not impossible, i even said as much. but i am not going to be ignoring you absence here and i think you should've gotten concerned had i *not* said anything

also like lol why are you blaming me for your ass almost getting yeeted? last time i posted here, you were at 2/7 votes. i said i think your absence is scum!indicative and offered a partner. then i left the game to go to my driving lessons. and people decided to pile on. the fuck you blaming me for the flashwagon? saying i tried to push a fast one on you is fucking laughable, i wasn't even here!

yeah, i have a great explanation for this - you weren't here for 2 days, then you came with uttershite takes that you didn't explain at all, then you dipped at the time where i historically know you are active. *after* a sour scum loss in a game you admitted you hated and admitted how much you love playing town more. the fuck am i supposed to think? you want benefit of the doubt? the fact that i wasn't pushing for your head right this instant is that benefit of the doubt. (you can point at the flashwagon, but like come on. saying i was strongmanning it when votes just piled on like nothing is bad and we both know it.)

again, calling this an aggressive push from me is laughable, you know damn well this ain't even close to how my pushes can look. the answer is above. i know i tend to scumread you regardless of your alignment so i'm not going by your tone but instead by your takes and the amount of your presence. and so far it's been underwhelming, to say the least.

re 573 - would it have killed you to write that out at the time you were spitting takes? i'm not sure i immediately buy this read comes from town but at least it shows you have *some* sorta thought process. now, what towngame of mine are you thinking of / comparing it to when you say guiding the game with less presence?