Newbie 2078 - Game Over

[Micc]

There were no deaths Night 1. It is now Day 2.

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (8) -

Dorsey, UhUhWaitAndSee, kennyk, Greeting, AlwaysNever, GrandpaMo, RCEnigma, Titus

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-09-29 23:55:00).

[AlwaysNever]

That's.... weird. Was that nokill deliberate?

[AlwaysNever]

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

[RCEnigma]

Perpetual day 1

VOTE: kennyk

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

[GrandpaMo]

That's.... weird. Was that nokill deliberate?

Lol you look like you fucked up in mafiachat and came to the thread to explain ur grief.

fwiw, mafia never no kills night 1

it gives them no advantage on doing so -- the only time it would be valid is only if they are setting up a later claim or future claim but still that is very high risk play low reward hence why mafia never goes for that play and rather no kill in later days.

[AlwaysNever]

That's.... weird. Was that nokill deliberate?

Lol you look like you fucked up in mafiachat and came to the thread to explain ur grief.

fwiw, mafia never no kills night 1

it gives them no advantage on doing so -- the only time it would be valid is only if they are setting up a later claim or future claim but still that is very high risk play low reward hence why mafia never goes for that play and rather no kill in later days.

That's a fair assumption
But yeah it is weird, I just want to point that out

Either way, we don't have anything to go on now, so it's like we're back at D1 again like RCE said lmao

Btw RCE, you said you have some eod things you want to discuss post flip, so is that still a thing or?

[GrandpaMo]

Btw RCE, you said you have some eod things you want to discuss post flip, so is that still a thing or?

I have some stuff to...

[GrandpaMo]

I think like I said yesterday tl flipping town makes greeting scum.

[GrandpaMo]

That's.... weird. Was that nokill deliberate?

Lol you look like you fucked up in mafiachat and came to the thread to explain ur grief.

fwiw, mafia never no kills night 1

it gives them no advantage on doing so -- the only time it would be valid is only if they are setting up a later claim or future claim but still that is very high risk play low reward hence why mafia never goes for that play and rather no kill in later days.

That's a fair assumption
But yeah it is weird, I just want to point that out

Either way, we don't have anything to go on now, so it's like we're back at D1 again like RCE said lmao

Btw RCE, you said you have some eod things you want to discuss post flip, so is that still a thing or?

ur my top town

[kennyk]

Hello folks. I am going to go through the thread and write comments to anything I think is worth it.

[Greeting]

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

[kennyk]

I would say never knowingly aligned. Are you calling Dew scum?

im saying there is 1 scum in between

Not yet 50 posts and Grandpo thinks all SEs are town and either Dorsey or Dew are town. That is what I would call reading skills. Or is it you know who's who?

[kennyk]

I'll be able to put some effort towards this game tomorrow or Tuesday morning the latest.

Thoughts with no further context:

Titus town
Grandpa iffy
Dorsey slightly townie
Alwaysnever slightly above dorsey
Greeting is meh
I had something about uhuh but immediately forgot what it was
Dew I've got nothing

That is what I call an early read list. It is still RVS and most players didn't even post five serious posts. Is this deliberately trying to draw our read on someone in a certain direction?

[Titus]

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

[kennyk]

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It is always good if the mod wants to make a point.
(Sorry, but I couldn't let that one slip)

[kennyk]

I can smell the desperation of Dorsey to get the attention off himself. I always find this suspicious in mafia games.

What I'm about to say is obvious to (I think) everyone but I want to show my train of thought. The goal of town is to remove all of the mafia. The goal of the mafia is to remove enough townies so that their number equates to that of townies. Since the numbers of mafia are far smaller than that of town, the loss of each mafia goon is, especially at the very beginning of the game, is a bigger blow to the mafia than a loss of a townie being a blow to the town team. In case of this game, from what I've gathered, we have a 2 mafia-7 townies setup. The mafia really

cannot

allow themselves to throw any of those two under the bus, especially in the earliest stage of the game.

That being said, I shall change my vote and VOTE: Dorsey.

Trying to desperately getting attention off ones back in my eyes in no scumtell. Especially for newbies like Dorsey I guess it is an absolute normal thing to get out of the line of fire even if one is town. Everyone wants to win and in most cases that means survival.

The general talk about the 2-7 setup is correct but I don't like the conclusions you draw out of them.

[Greeting]

I'm in the middle of compiling a larger post atm. My thoughts tend to be chaotic so I'm trying to put them in order.

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

Ehh. I didn't want to be too explicit with it in order to not have you killed. But since you're asking directly,

a friendly bird told me that Titus is town

.

[kennyk]

I'm going to try to post my "thoughts" tomorrow. Currently, I'm okay with my vote on Dorsey.
I feel like they are getting pretty defensive quickly, which is prob just a playstyle?

What's wrong with my profile picture?

As it's also with this post, even though it is in the RVS.

But I do find it interesting how Dorsey kinda "pushes" me about the whole aligned thing.

I would say never knowingly aligned. Are you calling Dew scum?

And if you're saying there's '1 scum in between', which one is the scum? And how are you drawing this conclusion? And why would the scum not be Dew if she initiated the interaction?

Do you have any special connection to Dew? Is that why you're bussing her while targeting me...? I'm just spitballing here.

A few examples here ^
Need to think if that's a more town or mafia thing to do tho.

I totally disagree with my predecessor here.
The first quote just looks like RVS smalltalk. And the rest doesn't look like an attack on Dew but more as an attack on the accusor.

[GrandpaMo]

I would say never knowingly aligned. Are you calling Dew scum?

im saying there is 1 scum in between

Not yet 50 posts and Grandpo thinks all SEs are town and either Dorsey or Dew are town. That is what I would call reading skills. Or is it you know who's who?

no, its just giving a template of what I can go with throughout day 1. I realized that is my best town Strat to do in ms (specifically forum mafia). u get a poe with having more town reads.

I towered the SEs because the game was going slow and it feels like a newbie game where it doesn't feel natural. also the nk on this night probably is a newb who went on obvious town who doc probably saved. if that's the case then we have doc. but I it was jk at fault then just negates the whole theory.


anyways this game felt so much different then the previous newbie game I played -- it felt '"easier"

and get the 2nd point right.

I did a pairing read which did not include dew.

I had my read that if tl flips scum, then greeting is town and vice versa -- why u think I'm pushing greeting here?

and I did say that greeting + Dorsey did seem alligned, so I had their allignment together.

dew is just either pr / Maf that's why I never pushed them

[GrandpaMo]

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

lol did u think greeting pr slipped? and asking them that question?

[GrandpaMo]

I'm in the middle of compiling a larger post atm. My thoughts tend to be chaotic so I'm trying to put them in order.

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

Ehh. I didn't want to be too explicit with it in order to not have you killed. But since you're asking directly,

a friendly bird told me that Titus is town

.

wtf is this?

are you outting?

[Greeting]

I'm in the middle of compiling a larger post atm. My thoughts tend to be chaotic so I'm trying to put them in order.

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

Ehh. I didn't want to be too explicit with it in order to not have you killed. But since you're asking directly,

a friendly bird told me that Titus is town

.

wtf is this?

are you outting?

Now I'm starting to think whether I have been tricked into accidentally breaking the rules.

[kennyk]

VOTE: UhUhWaitAndSee

This came out of nowhere to me. I don't like it.
With this I am halfway through the thread. As a headache is forming in my head I'll do the rest tomorrow.

[Titus]

I'm in the middle of compiling a larger post atm. My thoughts tend to be chaotic so I'm trying to put them in order.

Or a very lucky Doctor that saved someone? That'd be nuts

Technical possibilities are no kill, doctor or jailkeeper.

But mafia no kill is surely very rare.

This must have been an act by a Jailkeeper. Good news for us, but the downside is that we get less reads. Thanks, whomever you are.

Nonetheless, TL/HockeyFan flipping town is disappointing, but their death may give us something to work on.

Did you get any message last night?

Ehh. I didn't want to be too explicit with it in order to not have you killed. But since you're asking directly,

a friendly bird told me that Titus is town

.

wtf is this?

are you outting?

Now I'm starting to think whether I have been tricked into accidentally breaking the rules.

You did not. You shouldn't out (although it's totally legal) if someone doesn't ask. I asked you to out because your knowledge of a jailkeeper would have meant you were the jk or scum otherwise.