Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Kate Bishop]

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?

Gamma.

[Kate Bishop]

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?

Also, please, please, please engage with my list of reasons that we're scumreading you. :/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you guys no Elim, you can handle the rest of the game with me on auto pilot.

It's a complete waste, we don't gain an extra kill from it, and guessing wrong doesn't do worse than guessing right, numbers wise.

In a numbers sense, no vote is actively terrible, with a downside of awful.

[Kate Bishop]

If you guys no Elim, you can handle the rest of the game with me on auto pilot.

It's a complete waste, we don't gain an extra kill from it, and guessing wrong doesn't do worse than guessing right, numbers wise.

In a numbers sense, no vote is actively terrible, with a downside of awful.

Are you at all concerned about what Luke's role could do to the next day phase?

[Cabd]

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?

Also, please, please, please engage with my list of reasons that we're scumreading you. :/

Dead serious question. Why? You literally don't believe me that troubadour was a sheer coincidence so why the hell bother? At this point I just hope that you're scary enough of a UTR that scum doesn't bring you to endgame to mislim me for the win.

It's beyond frustrating but that's how it feels.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you guys no Elim, you can handle the rest of the game with me on auto pilot.

It's a complete waste, we don't gain an extra kill from it, and guessing wrong doesn't do worse than guessing right, numbers wise.

In a numbers sense, no vote is actively terrible, with a downside of awful.

Are you at all concerned about what Luke's role could do to the next day phase?

No. Not remotely.

[Kate Bishop]

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?

Also, please, please, please engage with my list of reasons that we're scumreading you. :/

Dead serious question. Why? You literally don't believe me that troubadour was a sheer coincidence so why the hell bother? At this point I just hope that you're scary enough of a UTR that scum doesn't bring you to endgame to mislim me for the win.

It's beyond frustrating but that's how it feels.

This feels so cephdragon. :/

Ignore our crumb-based reasons and look at the rest and tell me why we're wrong.

[Lukewarm]

It's a complete waste, we don't gain an extra kill from it, and guessing wrong doesn't do worse than guessing right, numbers wise.

In a numbers sense, no vote is actively terrible, with a downside of awful.

Can you walk me through the numbers that make you feel this way.

Alive in this game : you, me, gamma, kyouko, cabd, wheme, kate, (gif)

[8] now

We kill,

scum kill
[6]

We kill

, scum kill
[4]
We no kill, scum kills -
3 man ELO

VS

[8] now
We no kill, scum kills
[7]

We kill

, scum kill
[5]

We kill

, scum kill
3 man ELO

Both paths give us 2 elims before 3 man elo.

But no killing now, means that we will be killing with more information. Namely: investigative results and tonights flip.

[Lukewarm]

If you guys no Elim, you can handle the rest of the game with me on auto pilot.

It's a complete waste, we don't gain an extra kill from it, and guessing wrong doesn't do worse than guessing right, numbers wise.

In a numbers sense, no vote is actively terrible, with a downside of awful.

Are you at all concerned about what Luke's role could do to the next day phase?

No. Not remotely.

Me neither, btw.

In practice I think I basically make the game go from a 2 week deadline to a 1 week deadline, because you will want to hammer before the hidden deadline, and it is guaranteed to be at least 1 week

[Kate Bishop]

and it is guaranteed to be at least 1 week

I missed/forgot this somehow.

even so, I don't want to elim Luke.

[Lukewarm]

Hey cabd, does knowing that my full role is confirmed by wheme (not just the name) change anything for you?

I can't be the inventor in your theory do you still think I fit in your solve of Dunn+gamma+[luke or gif]?

[Kate Bishop]

Cabd I would like to talk about your flavor too because I went and did my isekai homework and I'm hoping you can connect a few dots for me

(also season 2 when)

[WhemeStar]

I dont think lukes role is scum with all the power that has flipped townside

[Kate Bishop]

Wheme talk to me about the informed part of your role, as detailed as possible (without getting modkilled)

Does it imply you can do things post humously?

[Cabd]

Cabd I would like to talk about your flavor too because I went and did my isekai homework and I'm hoping you can connect a few dots for me

(also season 2 when)

Sure although you may have, I doubt the mod did.

[Kate Bishop]

I got where the idea for "informed" came from.

Is it not really specific about how it interacts with Shiro/Sora? I thouht of a certain game of othello.

[Cabd]

Hey cabd, does knowing that my full role is confirmed by wheme (not just the name) change anything for you?

I can't be the inventor in your theory do you still think I fit in your solve of Dunn+gamma+[luke or gif]?

I....

I don't know.

Maybe?

Your role does seem pretty anti-town on the basis of "when this scum dies town gets punished" from that perspective, but that would make Gamma the inventor.

But like, if I'm wrong bout you, it's either gif or my town reads that have strong convictions behind them are wrong, or rather, one of them is.



That said, my CRAZY crackpot theory is that you're scum and protected yourself from this elim for 500 IQ and are pushing nolim to get LLD to double down on voting you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wheme talk to me about the informed part of your role, as detailed as possible (without getting modkilled)

Does it imply you can do things post humously?

...
Don’t answer this.

[Kate Bishop]

I could reasonably envision anyone but you and GiF being his scum partner
Tbh I was initially thinking Kate and Kyouko were more likely but I feel like it’s more likely some who feels a bit warmer in an emotional sense is it, that being Wheme or Luke
And with the genuine searching I saw from Cabd earlier I think Luke is the most logical partner
VOTE: Lukewarm
I basically just talked myself into reaching the same sort of conclusion you did

[Kate Bishop]

Ignore our crumb-based reasons and look at the rest and tell me why we're wrong.

[WhemeStar]

Why shouldn’t I answer that gamma?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like spelling that out would be a mistake rn, regardless of Kate’s alignment

[Kate Bishop]

Disagree. I think hiding information about roles post massclaim when it might help sort one of the people in the PoE is more helpful to scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who does it help sort?

[Kate Bishop]

Cabd?

Both of them claiming something about some other game. Having seen the show, I'm trying to get to the bottom of EXACTLY what is expected to happen, (hint: This limits the maneuverability for scum-Cabd to work around). Why should we stay vague?