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[T3]

lol fuck lmfao

which game did you play with RC?

An offsite game, run by none other than shellyc.

ah, so that's where RC plays now? thanks

MU -> Partner Communities -> mafia.gg ->Mini Normal 2: Waterfalls

[Roden]

It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC

tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho

You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.

[Roden]

I genuinely don't understand why you and Mew are getting so offended about getting scum read in a game of Mafia? Like dude just fucking talk to me first at least.

[Aristeia]

is she telling lies there? because if not, i don't feel like prying about a potential alt is gonna net you any good

good catch on n_m though, @aristeia?

I realized it doesn't actually mean much for NM's alignment for Gamma to treat him that way, it says more about Gamma's alignment than NM's - I find the arguments made that NM is miller because he wouldn't claim miller as scum make some sense.

[datsi]

VOTE: not_mafia
I reread his ISO and he gives me a vaguely similar vibe to 2226

[Roden]

VOTE: NM

I don't even know anymore. Maybe he's just laying low since from his point of view the game went full TvT.

[Datisi]

while i don't disagree, i feel like miller claim is at least somewhat town!indicative from n_m

thoughts on t3? on my thoughts on t3? i don't think you townread him, why ignore that in favour of n_m?

pedit: @gamma

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town, y'all just boring

[Roden]

Unless the exact scum team is Margot/Kyouko/T3, somebody's wrong/lying about their reads, because everyone else is either town read by multiple people or yelling at me for playing the game and scum reading them.

[Roden]

And Roden, you can discredit the people voting Margot but you know that calling that wagon the scum team is incredulous. Or maybe it's not, maybe you really think that all three of us are scum waging Margot but if you think that lol whatever.

This is kinda hypocritical in retrospect because this was exactly why T3 and Margot got paired up when they voted to put IV at E-1.

[Roden]

VOTE: Margot

Kinda losing motivation this game tbh. Genuinely hope scum just kills me because this game is becoming so unnecessarily unfun.

[Roden]

It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC

tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho

You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.

I want to add that I never parked my vote on you. This is exactly why I think you're playing the victim and being manipulative, because it's clear I've been moving my vote around all game.

[datsi]

while i don't disagree, i feel like miller claim is at least somewhat town!indicative from n_m

thoughts on t3? on my thoughts on t3? i don't think you townread him, why ignore that in favour of n_m?

pedit: @gamma

T3 can also be scum, idr what you’ve said about him in specific, I just feel like N_M is the right vote, he’s kinda in line with his scum meta and just has been UtR in general this game, he hasn’t really pushed anyone (I know he said he has no scumreads but still :/)

[datsi]

I also feel like the game’s starting to stall a little so I’m trying something new

[Aristeia]

im willing to kill nm because im kind of annoyed at him gamethrowing last time we were t/t

he quickhammered my lover pair and then self hammered himself the next day to end the game for a scum win.

if he is town he might as well be playing for the other side

[Aristeia]

I like how dwlee's posting has depth that feels closer to [their] town game than [their] scum game. I also don't think scum![them] would approach my slot by voteparking me because I don't think scum![them] really wants to push town!me since [they've] played with me before.

Also idk when Aristeia has seen my scum game to know this

sorry for misgendering ! oops :<

[Aristeia]

this btw is the game I am talking about:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87638


he is town in this one and at least interested in voting scum but he decides to instead hammer townpair then hammer himself to game throw

so i'm fine with elimming NM even if he is a miller because he's just deadweight and not really helpful to our win condition

also I am just angry and spiteful sometimes.

[ChaosOmega]

VOTE: datsi

I've re-read, but I still don't have a great bearing on things. Top scumreads are datsi, Dwlee, and iv. datsi's progression on Margot (from 203 to 267 to 269) reads weird, like you want to keep on Datisi's good side but didn't actually change the read at all. 289 also has a weird vibe, really just the "I am loathe to use it as the primary evidence for a push" part. The tone is weirdly cautious, and given the light push (492) and then defending the slot (711/714) later, it reads partner-y. The sequence 508/616/630/690/698, datsi drops the thread and doesn't mention Ari again, it doesn't read like datsi is trying to solve Ari's slot.

Dwlee, 66 gives them a reason not to be NK'd, a claim wasn't necessary there as part of the reaction test. It's already been commented on, but the early buddying with Datisi reads odd. It's so over the top to the point that it doesn't read as trying to pocket, but still odd. Speaking of lame reaction tests, they spend multiple posts on multiple people asking for opinions on Roden. Obviously a joke, but it's made in a way to look vaguely productive like they're doing a reaction test. 287 gives similar vibes to datsi's 269 earlier. If you think it makes him likelier to be scum, then push him and get something out of him, the hand-wringing here is weird.

Getting ready to eat dinner, will follow up on this later with iv.

[Dwlee99]

Chaos nooo if you're town we can't do this again

[Dwlee99]

(I also don't need a reason not to be night killed. I hardly ever am.)

[ChaosOmega]

Chaos nooo if you're town we can't do this again

Lol, I'm conscious of this. I'm not going to tunnel you again, my scumread is not as strong as the previous game.

[innocentvillager]

It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC

tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho

You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.

i mean you haven't attempted to talk to me either and everytime you mention me it feels like you're potshotting me hard

ever since you last voted me you kept your vote on me pretty consistently so it feels like you're set on voteparking me, idk why you think im misrepping you there? and you even called me elimbait that never ever makes it to elo so?

im not trying to be a dick sorry if ive coming off as one it's just how i felt

[innocentvillager]

His posts make a lot of sense. I think his progression on my slot (uptick) is extremely townie and I've basically interacted with him the most. There are other things but that should be more than enough for now.

I am, however, a bit biased here. If you TR me though, you can trust my read on him. I feel quite strongly about him being town.

idk i still think ur town but i don't know if i can trust u on chaos being town

i will reevaluate and elaborate at some point tho

[Aristeia]

VOTE: Margot

Kinda losing motivation this game tbh. Genuinely hope scum just kills me because this game is becoming so unnecessarily unfun.

: (


this is kind of what scum has to do tho to win. make your life unfun and make you not want to play. don't give in. fight the emotional manipulation.

kill them without mercy

[T3]

I'm town, y'all just boring

VOTE: nm
He said the EXACT same thing in 2223 when he had a few votes.