Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[Alisae]

oh i need to put my vote on wisdom lol
VOTE: wisdom

[imaginality]

Town self-voting at x-1 is dumb in any game but in this game where there's the added chance it gives scum an NK it's twice as bad so twice as unlikely town do that.

I buy that town!Alisae would be unhappy about being about being the likely elimination, but I don't buy that town!Alisae would self-vote in this setup.

Also I don't like Ali town reading Mom just because Mom is against eliminating Ali.

It's 12:25am here, 4 hours to deadline. I think I can be around another rhour or so but probably not right up to deadline.

I'll vote Wisdom (or Mom, no one else though) if the choice is that or No-lim, but I still believe Ali is our best chance of getting a scumflip.

[Wisdom]

2 hours 45 mins left guys and Ali needs two votes

[Wisdom]

Unofficial VC

3 Alisae (Wisdom, Hiraki, imaginality)
2 imaginality (Bingle, the worst)
2 Wisdom (Taly, Alisae)
1 the worst (Momrangal)

5 to elim

(expired on 2021-09-23 12:19:23)

[Wisdom]

Or I can switch to imaginality if 2 more show up who want to

[Bingle]

VOTE: ali

I don’t really trust this sudden shift to Wis, makes me worried he’s an 8 ball, tbh.

[Hiraki]

glad it wasn't just me

[Save The Dragons]

Vote Count 1.4

4 Alisae (Wisdom, Hiraki, imaginality, Bingle)
2 Wisdom (Taly, Alisae)
1 imaginality (the worst)
1 the worst (Momrangal)

Not voting:

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to yeet

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-23 12:19:23)

[Save The Dragons]

No one was eliminated!

N1 begins. PM me for fast night. If everyone requests a fast night, I will open the thread early.

D2 begins in (expired on 2021-09-25 12:26:39)

[Save The Dragons]

Whoops, I slept in.



D2 begins now! With 8 alive, it takes 5 to yeet

D2 ends at (expired on 2021-10-02 17:15:04)

[Alisae]

VOTE: bingle[\v] worst vote on me only because of the need to justify it

[Alisae]

VOTE: bingle

[Taly]

I'm not deliberating any possibility, I was referring to Ali arguing he might be the 8ball
And I'm saying that it makes zero sense to selfvote as town and especially as 8ball so he's full of shit
Do you need a road map to every sentence I write?

Town self-voting at x-1 is dumb in any game but in this game where there's the added chance it gives scum an NK it's twice as bad so twice as unlikely town do that.

I buy that town!Alisae would be unhappy about being about being the likely elimination, but I don't buy that town!Alisae would self-vote in this setup.

Also I don't like Ali town reading Mom just because Mom is against eliminating Ali.

It's 12:25am here, 4 hours to deadline. I think I can be around another rhour or so but probably not right up to deadline.

I'll vote Wisdom (or Mom, no one else though) if the choice is that or No-lim, but I still believe Ali is our best chance of getting a scumflip.

I disagree with the point that both of you make here in regard to

Alisae

being more likely scum for the self-vote.

Since an elimination was not reached in time, we can never have a solid idea of who was the D1 8ball, nor have clarity of

Alisae's

slot. It was highly likely that

Alisae

would be eliminated, so for

Alisae

to only go after another wagon at the opportunity to eliminate a scumread, I don't think self-voting is a negative.

VOTE: ali

I don’t really trust this sudden shift to Wis, makes me worried he’s an 8 ball, tbh.

glad it wasn't just me

I also disagree with the point that

Wisdom

was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally

Alisae/I

, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.

Why would scum push for the 8ball at the butt-ass last minute of the dayphase?

~

I'm almost certain the 8ball currently resides in

{Imaginality/Wisdom/Alisae/Taly}

. The good thing is that town can actually make more informed assumptions about this and have reason to sort rather than scramble for a wagon.

the worst

, why vote

Imaginality

?

Alisae

, I want you to be candid, did you really believe that you were going to be eliminated D1 - and why do you think that you aren't now?

Mom

, if

I/Imaginality

was your solve, why keep your vote on

the worst

?

[the worst]

VOTE: Alisae

[Bingle]

VOTE: The Worst

[imaginality]

[
I disagree with the point that both of you make here in regard to

Alisae

being more likely scum for the self-vote.

Since an elimination was not reached in time, we can never have a solid idea of who was the D1 8ball, nor have clarity of

Alisae's

slot. It was highly likely that

Alisae

would be eliminated, so for

Alisae

to only go after another wagon at the opportunity to eliminate a scumread, I don't think self-voting is a negative.

I'm bit sure what your final sentence here means. Can you clarify?

[Bingle]

VOTE: bingle[\v] worst vote on me only because of the need to justify it

I didn't justify it, though?

Or are you talking about the Wisdom being 8-ball thing?

I voted you to maybe have an elimination before the EoD.

[Bingle]

I also disagree with the point that

Wisdom

was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally

Alisae/I

, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.

Why would scum push for the 8ball at the butt-ass last minute of the dayphase?

First of all, I think an 8 ball push would have come from exactly one scum player. Both scum hard pushing to get an eightball elim would be dumb. Second, I think a wagon on a player who was largely unsuspected prior to the end of day that came out of nowhere when scum are looking to get a specific elimination in is largely suspicious, yes. Third, you two weren't the only ones pushing Wis at EoD, imaginality and ducky had expressed willingness too. Finally:

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-23 12:19:23)

SCRAMBLE TIME

So... Yeah. I think it's entirely reasonable that there was scum somewhere in {Taly/Alisae/duck/imaginality} and that was why the sudden interest in Wisdom at "the butt-ass last minute".

[Hiraki]

I also disagree with the point that Wisdom was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally Alisae/I, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.

well

Vote: Alisae

[Hiraki]

bingle baby you're gonna have to give me something for TW - im really feeling good about my reads and nothing has made me rethink them yet

[Alisae]

LOL

[Alisae]

Hiraki ur reads are really shit this game

[Bingle]

because i want someone else to do it first so i can sheep them and pretend it was my idea all along

reaction to being epically pranked was kinda towny though smh

Mine or Taly's? I'm not gonna lie, Taly not realizing that was a joke post kinda threw me for a loop and I'm not sure what to think about it.

I now think Mom and Wisdom are town. what reality are we win smh.

Representative worst behavior. His ISO is full of fluff, and when you try to engage him over things that aren't fluff nothing comes from it and there's no follow through. He makes sense as a partner with literally every player and he's actively lurking behind vague non reads like "Bingle and Hiraki are similar" or "There's a better vote someone else could make" which actually tells us fuckall. His mom progression is ???

As a whole, ducky is doing just enough to give the impression that he's here and he's solving, but he's accomplished nothing all while putting on this mysterious air. He doesn't seem lost, is coming across as cheeky/cocky and yet there's no movement towards a solve that I can see.

Also, he's probably not an 8 ball.

[Alisae]

happy duck day duck

[Hiraki]

Hiraki ur reads are really shit this game

ty for the vote of confidence