Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over


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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 413, the worst wrote:VOTE: Alisae
nani

DUCK, I GAVE YOU HOMEWORK:
In post 412, Taly wrote:the worst, why vote Imaginality?
In post 415, imaginality wrote:
In post 412, Taly wrote:[
I disagree with the point that both of you make here in regard to
Alisae
being more likely scum for the self-vote.

Since an elimination was not reached in time, we can never have a solid idea of who was the D1 8ball, nor have clarity of
Alisae's
slot. It was highly likely that
Alisae
would be eliminated, so for
Alisae
to only go after another wagon at the opportunity to eliminate a scumread, I don't think self-voting is a negative.
I'm bit sure what your final sentence here means. Can you clarify?
Let's presume that a town motivation for
Alisae
to self-vote is to give town better information about the 8ball. Why would scum self-implode when someone is trying to derail their wagon, and that a no elimination can be secured when there is no consensus?

It is arguable that self-voting as scum is playing against wincon because a no-elim D1 would grant scum a stronger idea of a more successful 8ball elimination target. On the other hand, town has the intention on giving clarity to the playerlist, and an
Alisae
elimination would.

Alisae
didn't bullshit a read on any other player that could've been eliminated outside like
Wisdom
, like
Imaginality
or
Mom
. They even discouraged my vote on
Mom
, ignored
the worst's
call on
imaginality
and stuck to
Wisdom
with when it was possible that wagon had allure.

So I believe that they voted for themselves as resignation rather than spite, and decided to pursue
Wisdom
at the end because there was a chance to secure an elimination on a scumread rather than themselves.
In post 417, Bingle wrote:
In post 412, Taly wrote: I also disagree with the point that
Wisdom
was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally
Alisae/I
, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.

Why would scum push for the 8ball at the butt-ass last minute of the dayphase?
First of all, I think an 8 ball push would have come from exactly one scum player. Both scum hard pushing to get an eightball elim would be dumb. Second, I think a wagon on a player who was largely unsuspected prior to the end of day that came out of nowhere when scum are looking to get a specific elimination in is largely suspicious, yes. Third, you two weren't the only ones pushing Wis at EoD, imaginality and ducky had expressed willingness too. Finally:
In post 187, Save The Dragons wrote:
Deadline:

(expired on 2021-09-23 12:19:23)
In post 188, the worst wrote:SCRAMBLE TIME
So... Yeah. I think it's entirely reasonable that there was scum somewhere in {Taly/Alisae/duck/imaginality} and that was why the sudden interest in Wisdom at "the butt-ass last minute".
Where is your read on
Wisdom
in all of this?
In post 418, Hiraki wrote:
In post 412, Taly wrote:I also disagree with the point that Wisdom was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally Alisae/I, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.
well

Vote: Alisae
Why not vote me? The count has been reset.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:14 pm

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I left school for a reason Taly!!
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:29 pm

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VOTE: Ali
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:30 pm

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Also guys vote for quick night
Lets not wait for 48 hours every time just for an 8ball choice
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:15 am

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Even duckie should be townreading me tbh
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:18 am

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{Bingle, wis, imaginalirty, Hiraki} has 2 scum and pretty sure it’s wis and Bingle.

Need to wrangle 4 other voters into voting wisdom
Pretty sure it’s impossible
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:20 am

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VOTE: wisdom
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:20 am

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Mom vote wisdom
Taly vote wisdom
Tw vote wisdom
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:20 am

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Ya no this is impossible
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:23 am

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Imaginality or someone would have to vote wisdom. Need 2 voters voting me to vote wisdom and they probably never will.
Like mathematically it’s impossible and it doesn’t seem worth it to try so would rather not waste the energy in a futile effort

Oh also the same people scumreading me are scumreading villagers

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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:24 am

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Y’all are fucking idiots and bad at mafia don’t play
No one should even have a reason to townread wisdom but people like him more than me for I don’t even know why

Gg town loss
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:25 am

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Hiraki actually lost the last game I played with him when I literally posted a case on scum, showed him the correct answers, and guy was like lol I don’t wanna engage with ur case I just don’t see it kekw
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:25 am

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I also got pushed by scum the whole game lol
Why the fuck even try anymore
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:27 am

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Nothing I can do I can’t convince voters voting me to vote elsewhere it’s literally impossible I just wanna be left alone but now I’m the 8ball so like people are gonna try to push me through

Such an awful situation
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:28 am

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Like scum are literally untouchable
Village actually wants to lose
Nothing I can do if village wants to lose
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:30 am

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If people are blind honestly not my problem
If people don’t care honestly not my problem
If people don’t want to win honestly not my problem
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:34 am

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Hiraki actually scumreads Taly
Maybe guy is just washed
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:35 am

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Imaginality somehow thinks I’m more important and a better person to kill than Wisdom dunno what to say there
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:35 am

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Literally just Wis Bingle guys
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:57 am

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Btw y’all know Bingle is scum cuz guy has t even made an attempt to read me and guy knows my scumgame and knows this ain’t it
But apparently I’m scum KEKW
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:17 am

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In post 435, Alisae wrote:Y’all are fucking idiots and bad at mafia don’t play
No one should even have a reason to townread wisdom but people like him more than me for I don’t even know why

Gg town loss
dont play with me anymore after this
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 am

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shouldn't be an issue since i'm 'washed up'
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:45 am

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In post 426, the worst wrote:I left school for a reason Taly!!
Let's see if this motivates you to re-enroll.

VOTE: the worst

Evading me D1 is plausible, not D2.
In post 428, Wisdom wrote:Also guys vote for quick night
Lets not wait for 48 hours every time just for an 8ball choice
I voted for quick night. I actually want people to claim whether or not they did so.
In post 441, Alisae wrote:Hiraki actually scumreads Taly
Maybe guy is just washed
I don't know if I believe
Hiraki's
read on me anymore. I hardly did but I figured it could be real by EoD1. Now I just don't follow it.

But
Alisae
, no worries! Let's be constructive.

I think
Bingle's
EoD1 stance on your slot was very half-assed, but what's a scum motivation to target
the worst
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:46 am

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i voted for quick night
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:55 am

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Wisdom
, I am not pleased with our recent interactions.

If you so believe that my resistance on
Alisae's
wagon and the read there is misled, I want you to counter my recent points or try to convince me.

P-edit
Hiraki wrote:i voted for quick night
NANI

HIRAKI
WORKING WITH ME?
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