Mini 2241: The Neighborhood -- ENDGAME

[unwnd]

so this is the last game i played against my homie unwnd:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87367


if you read his iso in that, he is on me like white on rice but I troll him into hammering me and he ends up eating some rope cuz I'm actually a beloved princess.

his decision to let me slip away on D1 is like pretty important and changes the course of the game somewhat and you can kinda tell from his ragey getting elimmed flailing that it burns him in his soul.

So I decided to open up with the same trolly ass approach to reaction test him and his response to me in this game feels like he's dismissing me as lol-town-troll rather than suspicion which makes me think he's informed of my alignment aka scumbag

I never claimed a read on you

[Gorkington]

is there a reason that it feels like youre taking this game at arms length rn

[unwnd]

Help me
Lakeshore turtle swallows the beach glass
Dannflor is on own pace. Pick own topic. Pure.
The explosion of the mushroom is unlife verdant
Unwnd is not good. He has focus on loud. He does not have focus on, is this music. Pooky makes lots of noises. Pooky has played the least music. Only riddles. Unwnd just wants to look strong. VOTE: unwnd[/b]
Break the middle beam of the bookshelf, it becomes a mouth that swallows you.
Kidamn be well and eat the fruits and vegetable please.
Clouds cannot come down to hug us because God pulls them to hide her acne.
Kazyan is very comfortable. Shares logic puzzle piece. Lshape. Rshape. Shape. Very good. Evils only have I shape. Try to draw others.

I don't agree with any of this. Dannflor has two posts with one unexplained vote and a minor shade at me tacked to it. I don't think it's inherently scummy, it's just null. His intentions are pretty veiled at the moment. I think that can mostly be true of everyone else besides like Pooky/Kaz and maybe House. I don't get how you (or kaz) and now even Loftwing(?) can make readlists this early. I don't think these efforts are being comfortable rather they're remarkably out of place and preemptive. That's the impression I got about Kaz and in general. Nobody is playing in such a way that makes me feel comfortable putting them on a list.

[unwnd]

is there a reason that it feels like youre taking this game at arms length rn

Yes and the reasons are unrelated to the game in particular

[Dannflor]

unwnd surely you've seen people make pre-emptive reads lists before?

what specifically is bothering you about them

what conclusions do you draw from these posts being out of place and pre-emptive

[Gorkington]

Unwnd's aggressiveness right out of the gate is giving me townpings.

can i get words on why you saw unwnd's opening as being aggressive

Yes and the reasons are unrelated to the game in particular

fair.
do you think its likely that if you are left alone youll eventually be townread this cycle?

[House]

Unwnd's aggressiveness right out of the gate is giving me townpings.

can i get words on why you saw unwnd's opening as being aggressive

Are you familiar with Slayer's Gambit?

[Gorkington]

ya.
im not sure why you would subsequently vote him for behaviour in that period if you thought he was slayer gambitting though.

[Gorkington]

oh or are you saying thats what you were doing okay

[House]

ya.
im not sure why you would subsequently vote him for behaviour in that period if you thought he was slayer gambitting though.

He wasn't. Pooky did something very akin to a Slayer's Gambit, so i was watching the interactions.

Initially, unwnd seemed like he was going water Pooky for the claim, but when he started why he wasn't going to vote for Pooky, I misread his post as saying he didn't want to

attract attention to himself

, and I was like, okay then... that's a scum claim.

[House]

ya.
im not sure why you would subsequently vote him for behaviour in that period if you thought he was slayer gambitting though.

He wasn't. Pooky did something very akin to a Slayer's Gambit, so i was watching the interactions.

Initially, unwnd seemed like he was going after* Pooky for the claim, but when he started why he wasn't going to vote for Pooky, I misread his post as saying he didn't want to

attract attention to himself

, and I was like, okay then... that's a scum claim.

[unwnd]

unwnd surely you've seen people make pre-emptive reads lists before?

what specifically is bothering you about them

what conclusions do you draw from these posts being out of place and pre-emptive

They don't feel earned or really have a lot of thought put into them. I maintain about what I said about Kaz and got the completely opposite opinion Navi did lol

[Gorkington]

isnt the conclusion of slayers gambit that people who go after it are more likely scum than not?

[MegAzumarill]

Sometimes I feel like my existance is a slayers gambit

[House]

isnt the conclusion of slayers gambit that people who go after it are more likely scum than not?

For chasing perceived low hanging fruit essentially, yes. But blatantly dodging voting there "to avoid attention" (as I misread) is also pretty incriminating.

[unwnd]

I think you have your own special way of looking at things but lack the personal details I share with Pooky

He just happened to come to a different conclusion

[House]

I already admitted to misreading what you said multiple times. Lemme be.

[unwnd]

fair.
do you think its likely that if you are left alone youll eventually be townread this cycle?

Yes very much so, but if people want to prod me I don't really care. Pooky does it for flirt reasons and others do it because I can be enigmatic at times

[Loftwing]

unwnd surely you've seen people make pre-emptive reads lists before?

what specifically is bothering you about them

what conclusions do you draw from these posts being out of place and pre-emptive

They don't feel earned or really have a lot of thought put into them. I maintain about what I said about Kaz and got the completely opposite opinion Navi did lol

Are there any particular readlists that you don't like right now?

[House]

lack the personal details I share with Pooky

I mean, you're basically insinuating I should sheep his suspicion, ya know?

[Gorkington]

Are you familiar with Slayer's Gambit?

He wasn't. Pooky did something very akin to a Slayer's Gambit, so i was watching the interactions.

Initially, unwnd seemed like he was going water Pooky for the claim, but when he started why he wasn't going to vote for Pooky, I misread his post as saying he didn't want to attract attention to himself, and I was like, okay then... that's a scum claim.

at the risk of being tedious can you pull which specific posts made you go
"ah yes this is an aggressive person doing an aggressive thing which makes me think theyre town"
from before post 37

i dont really feel like the explanation of the mistake covers what gave you that initial impression.

p-edit: are there reads that youre currently holding close to chest right now or are the readlists the main thing that youre like "dang this is the worst feeling thing that ive seen in the game so far"

[Loftwing]

Sometimes I feel like my existance is a slayers gambit

I've heard that Jake The Wolfie is essentially Slayer's gambit declined, a common response to Slayer's Gambit, where you simply axicute the player attempting Slayer's Gambit.

[Gorkington]

p-edit: are there reads that youre currently holding close to chest right now or are the readlists the main thing that youre like "dang this is the worst feeling thing that ive seen in the game so far"

this is to unwnd if unclr.

[MegAzumarill]

Sometimes I feel like my existance is a slayers gambit

I've heard that Jake The Wolfie is essentially Slayer's gambit declined, a common response to Slayer's Gambit, where you simply axicute the player attempting Slayer's Gambit.

I'd say I am more of an inverse slayer gambit, because I end up playing poorly and those pushing me are the town members actively reading/analysing the game.

Unintentional though

[unwnd]

p-edit: are there reads that youre currently holding close to chest right now or are the readlists the main thing that youre like "dang this is the worst feeling thing that ive seen in the game so far"

this is to unwnd if unclr.

Yeah more of the latter especially with what I know of Kaz