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[Dwlee99]

You moon logic worse than old school Titus

[Loftwing]

See Loftwing maybe anything you're typing about me voting margot would make sense there if after she posted I did literally anything to push her instead of thinking that her posts were townie and voting somewhere else

Well, you didn't have the pressure buildup or the crowd

to

push forward. What you're saying is what I would predict, that you don't have enough power to kill Margot because the hypothetical didn't happen. My posting does make sense, even if I don't speak with crystal clarity at all times.

[Dwlee99]

Obligatory metabad but here's me doing the same thing in a different game https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12953284

[Nero Cain]

move Grandpa & Margot up to Town

why grandpa?

I very much disagree. If scum are plenty capable of doing it and they do it it's not "stupid" to suspect you of it.

Scum also breathe, still a bad reason to suspect someone

u mock but it's still a valid argument.

How sustainable do you think it is for theoretical scum!Kooba to take charge and lead us through mislims in a large, without getting any suspicion for it?

koba is literally fucking bragging that they've bussed their buddies to get a scum win b4.

Jake's clown take is that in this game me and Koba both managed to completely abandon our meta of being much less active when scum and both just settled on to an shitty strategy of hardpushing an lurker slot.

I call bullshit b/c you did hard push a "lurking" Nero as scum b4.

[Loftwing]

Obligatory metabad but here's me doing the same thing in a different game https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12953284

Is.. is this for real Are- Are we really doing this?

sigh

The game was in RVS. On page #2 you voted a player who hadn't posted yet. More importantly, 4 hours hadn't even passed in the game yet let alone 12, which means that some players wouldn't have had the chance to post.

You must be joking. There is no way you're not joking. Please tell me you're not serious.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, yes Koba likely would get some heat and eat targets but thats an argument you could make for like...anyone.

Also, its not like town has a 100% winrate so scum absolutely do avoid suspicion and targets. Why are you pretending like this is your first game?

[Nero Cain]

loft, DW's vote is fine and I doubt that flips scum. Talk to me about LQ and Norway?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think Koba is either Town or bussing. Just thought I would get that off my chest.

ok on reread this fucking post is hilarious because its like "koba is town or scum" when you boil it down like all you are saying is that .. kyouko is scum here.

I think the idea is if you are scum then I am scum. The conviction in your posts is telling LQ you either know I am scum (bussing) or are very convinced I am scum (town).

[Loftwing]

I don't particularly understand LQ. Maybe it's because I haven't been laser focusing on them, or maybe it's something else, either way I would need to ISO them.

I can't remember the case against NorwEE here exactly, I'd probably have to reread some stuff I said, but I do still think that NorwEE is of suspicion.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think Koba is either Town or bussing. Just thought I would get that off my chest.

ok on reread this fucking post is hilarious because its like "koba is town or scum" when you boil it down like all you are saying is that .. kyouko is scum here.

No, it means you are right about Koy.

Or my last post is wrong I guess? What do you mean by "no" if you seem to agree I am scum?

[Nero Cain]

There's not a "case" on Norway. I just think a lot of what he's saying is junk.

I thought LQ was scummy but I did kinda like his last few posts.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

in fairness, I think most players are negative utility

Is this a joke?

yes and no.

yes, it's general trash talk

no, I don't everyone in the game has a neg utility role

What kind of question is this?

meta good because people are not all the same and there are different tells for everyone

meta is ok. Its a decent tool but it shouldn't be used as a bible b/c scum abuse it and dumb town misuse it.

there's content in andres' posts though that *is* pretty off for andres' town meta - which is where I'm seeing like concern in his slot.

like what?

Checking what you meant by it because it didn't really make sense to me, but also didn't read like a joke. I could see it being a joke on rereading but I wanted to make sure, because otherwise it seems weird

Do you think Koba is scum abusing meta?

[Nero Cain]

not really. I just think it's real silly Jake is just getting triple-teamed b/c he is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I call bullshit b/c you did hard push a "lurking" Nero as scum b4.

*Serial killer

[NorwegianboyEE]

In that game i did all i could to flaunt that i was unalligned with the mafia, while still being super aggressive.
And with the added bonus of pretending like an third-party role didn’t exist. Until i had to claim it.
It’s an different circumstance than what i’d do if i was mafia i think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Until i had to address it*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway i don’t even think i’ve been particurarly aggressive this game.
Except when calling out shit posts for being shit i suppose. But it’s not like i’m calling for Loftwings death over it. I’m stil just wanting SSB for today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, and i was nightkill immune because of my SK role being combined with non-consecutive commuter. So that gave me free reign to be as obnoxiously aggressive as i wanted without worrying about retribution from mafia.
That also played a part in it.
Man. Non-consecutive commuting serial killer. What an awesome role that was.

[Loftwing]

Anyway i don’t even think i’ve been particurarly aggressive this game.
Except when calling out shit posts for being shit i suppose. But it’s not like i’m calling for Loftwings death over it. I’m stil just wanting SSB for today.

You aren't calling for my death right away, but you did suggest that you're close to wanting me dead right away.

I still prefer voting SSB as i think SSB scumflip says slightly more about Loftwings alignment than Loftwing scumflip says about SSB.
Even if i am close to thinking they are mutually inclusive at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did you read on?

[Loftwing]

Read on what? Your reminiscence of getting SK one game, the "posts" A50 made after indirectly calling for my death, or you agreeing with the "posts" what A50 made (and including a word that only shows up twice in a cursory search of MafiaWiki™)

[NorwegianboyEE]

My calling you probable town after reflecting on it.

[Loftwing]

Could you tell me where you pulled Townbeard from? I'm mildly interested now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I get this is some tough analyzis, but if you try to conventrate a little bit you can see that i’ve gradually changed my stance on you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could you tell me where you pulled Townbeard from? I'm mildly interested now.

Mainly from past games with Titus where they’ve used the term and explained it to me.