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[Kazyan]

also why would you out a mason read if you're town rofl

Did I not hint enough until people yelled at me until

no

fuck this I need a moment so that I don't get absolutely toxic

[Dannflor]

I think Kazyan is falling more under the umbrella of "townies who did outrageous things"

but I don't know where I'd rather like my vote at the moment

the kidamn wagon is a terrible waste of votes

[Kazyan]

idk even if i think kazyan is really likely to be mafia and im not necessarily being mean i am a little on edge about making the game entirely unpleasant for them.
how does one reconcile not making someone feel bad and trying to lim them zzzzz

You could convince other people to vote for me

Your conversation has been entirely directed at me instead of the others who you actually need in order to eliminate me

If I flip I don't have to be emotionally invested anmyore

[Loftwing]

KrazyArt, would you like some emotional support?

I may not be able to help achieve your goals of the perfect Day 1, but I can hug you.

[Gorkington]

on this last page the top of 575, and 591/594 were directed at you, the rest was written with the intention of casing you to other players, so, that is more or less what i am trying to do.

[Gorkington]

idk im a little worried about being too controlling this game.
assuming dannflor is town here it reads more like hes voting to appease me rather than genuinely seeing what im seeing with kazyan so im wondering if i should just backseat and deal with what im seeing on kazyan not being something that other people are seeing.

i would just be frustrated if we lol-limmed kidamn when hes not even here when we may just get a replacement/he may show back up if we wait.

[unwnd]

I need dann to be come a bit more alive otherwise I'll be forced to PoE him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there is a high correlation between flaking/inactivity/replacement and being scumbag so I'm down with taking a shot on KidA besides its kind of funny to watch Kazy tilt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I need dann to be come a bit more alive otherwise I'll be forced to PoE him

am i in your POE buddy <3

[unwnd]

Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

[Gorkington]

there is a high correlation between flaking/inactivity/replacement and being scumbag so I'm down with taking a shot on KidA besides its kind of funny to watch Kazy tilt

ya i think that his slot should be grilled when theres someone there to receive the pressure, i just hate the idea of flipping an empty slot when theres a high chance of it being self resolving in a short period of time.

[Dannflor]

gorkington, I think the likelihood of the worst/kazyan being partnered is extremely low

[Gorkington]

youre probably right.

[Gorkington]

if you can find a way to explain that to the illogical part of my gut i would be extremely in your debt.

[Dannflor]

Anyone else concerned we the the speed of kazyan's wagon?

I think the wake's post is generally unlikely to come from a scum partner as... it looks very partnery on the surface. I don't know this statement/question by Wake is functionally meaningless because there are so many speedwagons especially on D1 that it's practically the site meta at this point and so many well meaning townies say things like that in response that it could easily be a townie saying something useless because they can't figure out what else to say. If it does come from scum I think it's more likely to be in a town!Kazyan world. That is precisely the type of statement scum loves to set up a town wagon that they think is somewhat likely to go through. It doesn't actually offer any meaningful resistance or provoke any thought about the wagon, it just positions wake as someone who was concerned about the wagon and will look better when they flip town.

if wake sees Kazyan getting run up like that, do they actually just make that post and be done? imo probably not, they probably hard push elsewhere or attack someone on the wagon or defend Kazyan. this extremely soft ball defense I think is more likely to come from scum wanting to look good.

continuing with the worst, he entered without a developed read on Kazyan but decided to defend him anyway. the worst is an experienced player so this doesn't hold up 100%, but very generally scum want to make sure their reads on partner's become very developed and detailed because those are the reads that most need to seem "real." the fact that the worst was basically just like, eh gut towny vibes, goes against that and I also find it believable given I've personally experienced Kazyan saying some similarly outrageous things in games before as town

[Dannflor]

the worst entered without a developed read on Kazyan but decided to defend them anyway*

[Gorkington]

If it does come from scum I think it's more likely to be in a town!Kazyan world.

bleh, true.
i feel like seeing obviously linked things as being partner interactions is something that i need to recognize isnt actually reliable (and probably net-unreliable?) no matter how much it feels like it should be.

if multiple people are attesting to this being normal for kazyan then i can try a reset/do some isodives when i have some time.

[Dannflor]

Spoiler:

Why would you not vote for the person who you think is Mafia

Like I think Pooky would do this even as town (I still think he's SK/delighting in being the villain; nice crumb), but Dann?

vote people you're null on so they panic and start making alignment tells

let's say you've found sk pooky. what are the rest of your reads - e.g. townreads?

If kidamn flips scum I claim conftown status

I'll pay that would be a *very* funny bus decision

VOTE: pooky

speaking of the worst, I do like this progression

[Dannflor]

the problem is I haven't actually seen Kazyan's scum game (and have no idea if they've ever actually rolled scum on here?) so I'm not sure what difference to be looking for here exactly

[Dannflor]

Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

where is murder cat

[Dwlee99]

Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

Three person poe when there are probably 3 scum?

[Dwlee99]

sorry but kidamn wagon seems like a waste of time?

Eh kinda I just don't want it to dissolve at least before kidamn comes back or is replaced

[Dannflor]

it's just not going to do anything for an indefinite amount of time

people can always go back to wagoning kidamn when kidamn comes back but... right now it's just an excuse to like not partake in the game

[Gorkington]

Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

kida isnt in your poe?

[Thestatusquo]

boop