2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:52 am

In post 1596, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We're not playing normal mafia anymore. We're playing a logic puzzle.

Well you can count me out of the solving then.

- Clownpiece (An stupid fairy)

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:53 am

Dkkoba has said that town who focuses on mech instead of dayplay usually lose.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:53 am

In post 1597, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1589, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1586, Yukari Yakumo wrote:First step of deciding whether the suggested mechanical plan is sound is approaching logically rather than empathically.
Ignore your reads for a sec and approach this from pure mechanical view.
Heck, I personally don't think Sanae is scum due to how Kilga went after her since Day 1.
Please do the math yourself so people can see it as something other than "LLD IS SCRAMBLING!1!"

Confirm my math.
I was actually agreeing with you there. I did say that "It is true that one more confirm and two skipped kills equals to town autowin."

Yeah not saying you're not, I'm just sayign show your work so as to help me convince people, lol.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:54 am

In post 1601, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Dkkoba has said that town who focuses on mech instead of dayplay usually lose.

I've also said this before. This is a statement for games where people look at roles and try to not scum hunt.

Having a guaranteed mechanical win isn't the same as focusing on mech. I agree with Koba on the point in general, but this game has turned a corner.

Yukari Yakumo · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:56 am

In post 1601, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Dkkoba has said that town who focuses on mech instead of dayplay usually lose.

I would also like to point out that the biggest reason why trying to solve fails most of the time is because some town refuses to cooperate because of stuff like "mech play isn't fun."

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:56 am

I'm having trouble grokking Niamh's mechsolve as a scum Ludwig Gambit, and some things about Niamh's posting rn ping town. Meanwhile Sanae is MIA at a critical moment, which feels maybe like trying to wait out the storm.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:57 am

In post 1605, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm having trouble grokking Niamh's mechsolve as a scum Ludwig Gambit, and some things about Niamh's posting rn ping town. Meanwhile Sanae is MIA at a critical moment, which feels maybe like trying to wait out the storm.

Why wouldn't they just be offline for unrelated reasons?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:59 am

we've had 20 hours of day phase and sanae still hasn't checked in.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:59 am

Anyway i'm not voting until Sanae shows back up and Gamma does his thing, but i'm gonna keep questioning LLD's plan because i really don't wanna lose this to some epic gambit from LLD and feel dumb for weeks afterwards.

Yukari Yakumo · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:59 am

Ok let's try this way then.

I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.

Ready?

"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."

Yukari Yakumo · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:59 am

I'm not in a rush to lim btw.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:00 am

In post 1609, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Ok let's try this way then.

I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.

Ready?

"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."

Who's this for?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:01 am

UNVOTE:
yeah I'm keeping my vote in reserve until I have a good idea of where my head is at

Yukari Yakumo · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:01 am

In post 1611, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1609, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Ok let's try this way then.

I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.

Ready?

"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."
Who's this for?

All of you who disagrees with the plan.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:02 am

In post 1613, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1611, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1609, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Ok let's try this way then.

I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.

Ready?

"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."
Who's this for?
All of you who disagrees with the plan.

I know I agree so I'm shutting up a bit, but, this is a really good way to do this and I will be borrowing it for when I need to explain future plans of this nature.

Yukari Yakumo · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:34 am

Oh yeah before someone even try to attempt to wiggle their way out of answering this with "I don't do mech play," if the plan is sound and does lead to town auto-win scum certainly will not want this plan to come to fruition. If too many people refuse to even consider the plan (2 is too many already), it will only create a spot for scum to hide behind. Therefore, I'm doing this to fish out the last scum as well. So if you are town I highly suggest you comply and play this little game with me.

Sanae · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:49 am

what's the plan?

Sanae · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:56 am

I don't see why NorweeBoy is alive if he can actually clear people with a role delayer. It seems to be a very bad idea for scum to do that?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:57 am

I don’t exactly know where I stand on the mech plan but I guess I can answer the questions and maybe I’ll get a better idea
I agree with SM and Reg being confirmed town.

Sanae · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:59 am

I'm thinking LLD is maybe Ascetic Scum and trying to set up a endgame she can win because she went very quickly from "just kill me my reads are bad" to "lets use norwegianboy as a role delayer" and mechwin this game please delay me.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:59 am

Can’t you just explain it instead of being patronizing

Sanae · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:00 am

I don't understand why scum would not get rid of Norwee since they know he can clear one person per night? Esp with Yukari claimed to be protecting Gamma?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:00 am

In post 1619, Sanae wrote:I'm thinking LLD is maybe Ascetic Scum and trying to set up a endgame she can win because she went very quickly from "just kill me my reads are bad" to "lets use norwegianboy as a role delayer" and mechwin this game please delay me.

Oh i didn’t consider ascetic.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:01 am

Idk if Ascetic makes sense as scum with what Kilga flipped. Plus if we’re worried we can make LLD remove her immortality as presumably if this Ascetic Scum theory is correct it would remove that instead.

StrangeMatter · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:01 am

In post 1615, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Oh yeah before someone even try to attempt to wiggle their way out of answering this with "I don't do mech play," if the plan is sound and does lead to town auto-win scum certainly will not want this plan to come to fruition. If too many people refuse to even consider the plan (2 is too many already), it will only create a spot for scum to hide behind. Therefore, I'm doing this to fish out the last scum as well. So if you are town I highly suggest you comply and play this little game with me.

What. You just defeated the purpose of this post already by saying it out loud. Never say it out loud until after.