Newbie 2078 - Game Over

[Greeting]

A reminder to myself to check all possible pairings from my readslist. Perhaps this will help.

But I think that Dorsey and UhUh cannot both be scum. Either one of them is or none.

[Dorsey]

So you're voting me because you misinterpreted and don't like that I corrected you and because I attempted to understand why there's so much misinterpretation by asking demographic info about the audience that's misinterpreting.

Unless I'm... misinterpreting...

[AlwaysNever]

Are some of you guys in primary school

I don't know why this is necessary

I'm going to elaborate on most of my null reads in a very long post, hopefully I got to do it before the time is up or for the arbitrary time period of "prod range" that Dorsey mentioned.

I'm still standing by with what I read, you can call it non-read, you can sus me for it, but that's what I think

[kennyk]

So you're voting me because you misinterpreted and don't like that I corrected you and because I attempted to understand why there's so much misinterpretation by asking demographic info about the audience that's misinterpreting.

Unless I'm... misinterpreting...

If it was a misonterpretation on my part and a correction on your part, all would be fine. But you just threw a part of a theory into the room without explaining it. And it took you two posts to even try to explain it.

Than your attempt to accuse me of posting filler sentences while you yourself try to boost your post count by multiple single sentence posts in a row (some of them count very well be interpreted aswhole filler posts).

And now trying to tell us that the question "Are some of you guys in primary school?" is a question to gather demographic infos and not an insult is just ridiculous. But I guess I will try to use this tactic in real life. Instead of direct insults rephrasing it as a question and claiming it is for demographic reasons is just

[Titus]

Are some of you guys in primary school

I don't know why this is necessary

I'm going to elaborate on most of my null reads in a very long post, hopefully I got to do it before the time is up or for the arbitrary time period of "prod range" that Dorsey mentioned.

I'm still standing by with what I read, you can call it non-read, you can sus me for it, but that's what I think

I like this. Still, this needs better reads and if it wasn't such a small game I'd give him time.

[Dorsey]

I just wanted to know why so many mistakes were being made. And if they were intentional.

[Micc]

Votecount 2.04

UhUhWaitAndSee (3) -

Dorsey, Titus, AlwaysNever

Dorsey (3) -

Greeting, UhUhWaitAndSee, kennyk

kennyk (1) -

GrandpaMo

Not Voting (1) -

RCEnigma

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-09-29 23:55:00).

[UhUhWaitAndSee]

Pretty confident the game is solved.

How was I supposed to respond to that? What do you feel was left to be said?

Well clearly the game is not solved. I don't understand how you can come to such a conclusion. How do you think the game is solved? Why? We only have one conftown.

I wanted you to address my response to your read. Specifically, whether you believe your read is independent of my playstyle and why you regard my pattern of posts as active lurking. If you still think I am scum, then why?

[Titus]

Both targets need to claim given the deadline.

[Greeting]

Okay, so I'm basing off my reads list which excludes Titus, myself, RCEnigma and kennyk as either town or the least suspicious.

We have: AlwaysNever, UhUhWaitAndSee, Dorsey and GrandpaMo.

(as of this moment)

Green = confirmed town
Bold and underlined = Last counted vote as of the end of Day or the moment of creating this post

On Day One AlwaysNever voted:

Titus

,

myself

, GrandpaMo,

No vote

.
On Day Two AlwaysNever voted: UhUhWaitAndSee.

On Day One UhUhWaitAndSee voted:

Dew/kennyk

.
On Day Two UhUhWaitAndSee voted:

Dorsey

.

On Day One Dorsey voted: UhUhWaitAndSee,

A to Z/TL The Legend/HockeyFan

,

myself

,

A to Z/TL The Legend/HockeyFan

.
On Day Two Dorsey voted:

UhUhWaitAndSee

.

On Day One GrandpaMo voted:

myself

,

TL The Legend/HockeyFan

.
On Day Two GrandpaMo voted:

kennyk

.

Dorsey and UhUhWaitAndSee can't both be scum. To me it seems quite clear that they both want to eliminate one another.

AlwaysNever is inconspicuous. They're pretty chill and clearly know that this is just a game (no shade ) but my gut feeling says that they could go on and try bussing a fellow scum on Day Two. The final no vote on Day One and the reads list with few stances are all kinda sus.

If not Dorsey, I could switch to AlwaysNever or GrandpaMo. UhUh's last posts are giving me a townlean. Not saying that he isn't a potential suspect, but I think that the other three should be given more priority.

[AlwaysNever]

Gpa

rereading again his posts in d1, I actually find his posts a little bit more chill than I thought? My previous read were based on his recent posts on d2, so I think my opinion of him might've turn out to be like that because of it, or because he also kinda tried to imply that I'm maf on his first post d2. yeah it's OMGUS probably, and I still haven't been able to separate myself well enough to be completely free from that

I would've probably be behind Greeting's wagon if he lead the charge on him, but it seems like he was a bit distracted at d2 from him misunderstanding Greeting's coming out with FN message, and being misconstrued by certain someone, and also possibly from life since he does have V/LA in the middle of the day. all of which was a shame.

could he be town? sure. there are one post of him that I don't want to point out, but could be a very strong argument that he is, but there are also post of him talking about how his posts have been NAI (non alignment indicative) so far, and I don't really like that. (he answered with that for my rvs accusation at post 53 and Greeting's reads on him at post 549) if you're town, I think you wouldn't explain away other suspicion by mentioning how your act so far has been NAI, right?

with both of that hanging over my head, that's why I read him as null. He can be either to me, at this moment, but at the very least after letting go of that OMGUS feeling in my heart a bit, I can say that I won't vote him today.

RCE

the man that has been "obvtown" since d1. I won't lie, I think of him as obvtown as well as we end d1, even when he sussed me for chainsawing Gpa in the back for his dew/dorsey non-aligned shenanigans. it doesn't feel as if a wolf is pouncing on you for making a mistake, it felt like a townie using their heads to think and provide logical conclusions and thoughts. so why did I put him to null again?

oh, yeah, he started misreading my posts as softtrack and suddenly made me on his vote list today. yeah, OMGUS. I can't free myself from that phenomenon/term. and I don't like that he pivoted to kenny on d1 (when they haven't posted yet for legible reason), even if his intention is to not elim Hockey off. he also made Kenny the other person on his vote list today, even though he has claimed before that he scumread almost half of the playerlist on post post 259 (unless that opinion has changed now with replacement and all)

his reasoning to not vote Uhuh in post 524 can literally also apply to me (from what Titus, Greeting, and Gpa said about my reads previously), so he just... arbitrarily pick me and kenny?

And I say, maybe his WIM is low now, considering how he said in post 574 that he forgot about this game. that's understandable, but he also promises to do a multipost iso stuff. looking at the deadline though, he might not be able to post it, which is a shame. I would have put him in townlean if not because of all that, I hope that was understandable to any of you, or to you RCE.

Kenny

Kenny, the inheritor of Dew's slot which I thought were a bit lackluster in posting but I can totally see as VT being bored and not knowing what to do. his opening posts are his thoughts on d1, which was good. I especially like post 437 and post 438. Shade/sass that doesn't feel mean spirited, just filled with humor.

I feel like he's the better Uhuh, though. or a brainchild of Dorsey and Uhuh. He doesn't look like he's coasting, he theorized, he engaged by asking questions(post 503), he defends himself from Gpa's attempt to imply him as maf (post 509) and dorsey's accusations (post 496) in a way that is level-headed and calm, generally he's trying to be active. there's even one of his posts that looked so town in my eyes, I don't know why I just didn't put him as townlean in my previous read. I didn't really go in depth before, just skimming over the top and I must've missed the details of his posts.

yeah, he's the only one out of the null reads that I'm considering to put into my townlean now, while also considering his previous player who occupied his slot.

[AlwaysNever]

I just wanted to know why so many mistakes were being made. And if they were intentional.

Imagine that, what's the name of this game you're in again?

[AlwaysNever]

seriously, if anything, I don't mind jumping on to Dorsey so we can policy eliminate them at this point. better that than noelim.

[RCEnigma]

Dude...I wanted to elim you, stop making good posts like that.

Two things I wanted to address. If I'm scum and I thought you softed tracker in a game where there is for sure a rolecop. You're dead so there's that.

Also the uhuh logic doesn't *really* apply to you because there are still niche possibilities like you +Dorsey. Which could change today sure. But I don't have the same degree of confidence in saying that than I do saying uhuh and Dorsey are never aligned.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: TL The Legend

Not in RVS anymore, what's the scum read?

Do you have any special connection to Dew? Is that why you're bussing her while targeting me...? I'm just spitballing here.

Mmm. Dew was RVS but I'm keeping the vote on for now.

So we're out of RVS because you say so? You literally just got here.

Legitimate reads are been made, so I don't disagree with them. Clearly the votes aren't random anymore.

No, there's no response to that because I don't know what you're saying. It just looks like you're not reading. You asking my scum read on TL The Legend kind of furthers this assessment.

OK, so I have read your iso again. I still don't get what you are trying to imply. Maybe when I do a comprehensive re-read I will, something I will try to do weekly, but I have already read through the posts once. You made only seven posts before that and so whatever it is it's not obvious, and there are no quotations in your posts so it is also not obvious what you are replying to in an iso.

If it is an RVS vote then it was getting past RVS by then. Hence, my original post.

VOTE: UhUhWaitAndSee

mmm. and?

That's how I feel about your ISO. All your posts are reactionary. Do you have reads on any players?

Well, yes, by the nature of post-RVS on d1 all posts are reactionary, that is where reads come from. You only really get into the game mechanics of things later days.

I don't have any particularly strong reads. IMO the exchange between TL and Greeting isn't particularly AI on day 1, but there are enough posts 'locked in' that better judgement can be made (in new light) on day 2 and onwards. Emphasis I place: I do believe Dew needs more scrutiny, mainly due to the low amount of posts so far.

Ugggghhhh I just went through and detailed like all of these posts but swiping back up to read from the top refreshed my phone zzzz.

The long and short is that Uhuh/Dorsey doesn't make sense as a team and uhuh had some good townie contributions here that aren't getting credit like : defending town!TL without using it as a springboard to buddy them (common scum tactic), genuine follow up to finish thought processes, and the snap back at Dorsey naked voting them seems pretty damn townie.

Also ruling out uhuh/dew. The trajectory from RVs to genuine vote/staying on the outside of TL vs Greeting/ bringing attention back to the dew slot instead of letting them lurk out all suggest not partnered there.

[Titus]

We have 6 hours. I would prefer Dorsey alive.

Please someone break this deadlock though.

[RCEnigma]

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Looks lamisty. Why are you supposing you'll flip? Do you feel scum are on your wagon?

Is this a reply to me or the original comment?

If you were in fact replying to me, I don't get it. What they wrote did stand out - why the comment about flipping town, when they're not on the edge of elimination? I mean...it's fairly obvious that one would claim to be town, nothing to really cause one to make an outright claim as such. It's just a little odd, I haven't read too much into it.

I wonder what the reactions will be when I flip town, which I am.

Comes off a little strange. Why the comment so far from elimination?

Five votes are needed to vote someone out. I am at four atm.

Oh sorry -- I misread the poster, for some reason. Never mind, what you wrote reads fine now.

Is TL at E-1 now? You’d better elaborate fast then.

Huh, that wagon was fast. Some weird dynamics between you and TL.

So I'm comparing your E-1 vote against TL's.

Uhuh/greeting would probably make the most sense but even these interactions make me doubt. A lot less confident ruling this out than the other two though.

[RCEnigma]

We have 6 hours. I would prefer Dorsey alive.

Please someone break this deadlock though.

I would too but I don't really want to elim uhuh to do it.

VOTE: kennyk could go greeting also.

[Greeting]

We have 6 hours. I would prefer Dorsey alive.

Please someone break this deadlock though.

If not Dorsey, I can go for AlwaysNever or GrandpaMo. For reasons stated in my reads I'm not going after kennyk nor UhUh.

Tbf I think the most likely scumteam is Dorsey&AlwaysNever, Dorsey&GrandpaMo or AlwaysNever&GrandpaMo.

[Dorsey]

I jk'd uhuh n1. Check my D1 posts and you see why. I doubt with his limited impact that he was the target.

[Dorsey]

Kill everyone on my wagon. To include townies lmao

[Greeting]

Kill everyone on my wagon. To include townies lmao

Um, are you okay? Just asking.

[GrandpaMo]

Dude...I wanted to elim you, stop making good posts like that.

why were u ever thinking bout always never here lol

always never is always town here lol

[GrandpaMo]

I jk'd uhuh n1. Check my D1 posts and you see why. I doubt with his limited impact that he was the target.

omfg.

why did u out???

ur never scum there after 4 ppl have pushed u and never voiced a concern to vote u

i rlly feel like

greeting is now more scum here.

solve could just be greeting + kenny.

yes i did say that tl flipping town would make greeting scum but kenny has done far worse in this game.

and dorsey, you need to stop manipulating my posts because the only reason i scumread u was because of mechanics earlier, overall individually u were a towny person as i hinted at and was one of the reason why i never wanted to vote u. its just the way u were against me on not understanding me that got me furstristing, so i kinda apologize for that -- i had a snap and i take it back
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[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: kennyk could go greeting also.

now rlly sheeping me. when u said i could be scum?

rc u voiced ur concern on early day 1 that i could be one of the ses that are scum no?

and now u have the most identical solve to me. how come?