Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Cabd]

I need to NOT be in any final cross-vote scenario because that is a losing proposition.

Setting aside gif's "prize" potential for a second, we're at 6 alive:

ssbm_Kyouko
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer

If we lim gif, scum then shoots the tracker, giving us a final four of {lld, luke, kate, cabd} and that ends with a cabd-luke cross which is EXTREMELY bad because then both of us cannot be off the board, and luke wins.

[Kate Bishop]

GiF:

It sounds like you don't know-know that the from the beyond vote was what scum won, it's your assumption.

Do you know what winning this challenge will win you?

[Cabd]

As far as I know we have no other ways of stopping a kill to get us back on odds and gain an extra elim.

[GuyInFreezer]

Scum most likely guessed Cabd.
I have 0 intention to enter MeLo with scum advantage.

[GuyInFreezer]

It sounds like you don't know-know that the from the beyond vote was what scum won, it's your assumption.

I do know that scum won and got the vote from beyond. I've seen S_S lose. Winner of the challenges get to influence the game in some kind. That discussion-less vote with vote from beyond the prize. The way of influencing the game. We won't know exactly what way the game will be influenced. We do know that in some way the game will be influenced.

[GuyInFreezer]

As far as I know we have no other ways of stopping a kill to get us back on odds and gain an extra elim.

Well town hasn't won a challenge yet. Either way, it is almost guaranteed that scum betted on Cabd lim today.

[Lukewarm]

I am not a Servant Alter Ego level of busser, so I am not sure why so many people are landing on me. Like, how I handled gamma when dunn was going down should be pretty "Luke is not partnered with the people" imo

I think it is one of Cabd/LLD

[GuyInFreezer]

If I'm not getting limmed today I'm going for Luke.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't think it's LLD because Dunn joked about supporting LLD feigning to not know that I was in the dead PT. It's WIFOM but ppl tend to not put their last scumbuddy there as a WIFOM because it is dangerous and there is 0 reason to take that risk.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think it's LLD because Dunn joked about supporting LLD feigning to not know that I was in the dead PT. It's WIFOM but ppl tend to not put their last scumbuddy there as a WIFOM because it is dangerous and there is 0 reason to take that risk.

lmfao

So the wcum have a role with foreknowledge of the isekai dead thread

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Luke what was your claim again?

[GuyInFreezer]

So the wcum have a role with foreknowledge of the isekai dead thread

No LLD he could literally see my post in there.

[Lukewarm]

Spoiler:

Gamma. What are your thoughts about the fact that with me and Dunn voting you, scum could have quick hammered you if we were both town (from your pov)

You have been town reading me, and you decided that kyouko was the scum out of the kyouko/Dunn tracker stuff.

What does this current situation do for your reads?

Are you sending guessing me? Or Dunn? What would that mean for kyouko?

Or do you think there is a reason scum would not quick hammer you?

Like. New things have happened. Your town reads put you in hammer range. And I am not seeing revaluations from you because of that.

Id rather eliminate the real threats first

Gamma. This line makes it incredibly hard for me to believe that you are town.

You have claimed town beloved princess, and looking at the numbers, if that is true, the from your pov voting you out means we lose the game. On the spot.

But you are not playing like you are the only lose condition today.

Like, from you pov it should be that ANY elim (even on town!) is infinitly better then an elim on you, because you are the only elim that loses this day phase.

But here, the two people on the chopping block are you and Dunn. And you think Dunn could be scum. But, nah, you're not gonna accept that. You're not gonna join that wagoj because it is not good enough (??). Instead you look like you are just kinda admitting defeat and rolling over to die?

It just does not feel right.

I’ll do dunn if I must but that feels like a capitulation

I want to kill gamma

VOTE: dunnstral
I guess I’m not in position to bargain, so I’ll take the first step here.

VOTE: Dunn

I can wait to kill gamma tomorrow

Like. This whole exchange. Would be scum!Luke, bullying scumGamma in main thread into voting scumDunn, and doing it in a way that makes Gamma look like shit and clearly partnered with Dunn, while also locking myself into killing Gamma the next game day.

Instead of... just telling gamma in a pt that not voting for Dunn here looks bad for the above reasons...

I would never hard double bus day 2 like this x.x

[GuyInFreezer]

I didn't just get to watch the dead PT. I interacted with the dead folks too.
Btw I asked DGB what ability she used during N1 and she said "Show your strength."

[Lukewarm]

You are the deadline guide.

When I die, core game mechanics break for some reason.

The game stops being a majority vote, and turns into a plurality vote system. Also, the length of the day phases changes from 2 weeks, to an unknown deadline that is randomly chosen, but is guaranteed to be more then 1 week long. Because the deadline is unknown, there is no longer a countdown timer given by the mod.

So this is the info he got

@LLD. Here is my claim, and it was confirmed (name and description) by Wheme

[GuyInFreezer]

Spoiler:

Gamma. What are your thoughts about the fact that with me and Dunn voting you, scum could have quick hammered you if we were both town (from your pov)

You have been town reading me, and you decided that kyouko was the scum out of the kyouko/Dunn tracker stuff.

What does this current situation do for your reads?

Are you sending guessing me? Or Dunn? What would that mean for kyouko?

Or do you think there is a reason scum would not quick hammer you?

Like. New things have happened. Your town reads put you in hammer range. And I am not seeing revaluations from you because of that.

Id rather eliminate the real threats first

Gamma. This line makes it incredibly hard for me to believe that you are town.

You have claimed town beloved princess, and looking at the numbers, if that is true, the from your pov voting you out means we lose the game. On the spot.

But you are not playing like you are the only lose condition today.

Like, from you pov it should be that ANY elim (even on town!) is infinitly better then an elim on you, because you are the only elim that loses this day phase.

But here, the two people on the chopping block are you and Dunn. And you think Dunn could be scum. But, nah, you're not gonna accept that. You're not gonna join that wagoj because it is not good enough (??). Instead you look like you are just kinda admitting defeat and rolling over to die?

It just does not feel right.

I’ll do dunn if I must but that feels like a capitulation

I want to kill gamma

VOTE: dunnstral
I guess I’m not in position to bargain, so I’ll take the first step here.

VOTE: Dunn

I can wait to kill gamma tomorrow

Like. This whole exchange. Would be scum!Luke, bullying scumGamma in main thread into voting scumDunn, and doing it in a way that makes Gamma look like shit and clearly partnered with Dunn, while also locking myself into killing Gamma the next game day.

Instead of... just telling gamma in a pt that not voting for Dunn here looks bad for the above reasons...

I would never hard double bus day 2 like this x.x

You alone wouldn't have maybe.
What if scumGamma asked you to?

[Kate Bishop]

It sounds like you don't know-know that the from the beyond vote was what scum won, it's your assumption.

I do know that scum won and got the vote from beyond. I've seen S_S lose. Winner of the challenges get to influence the game in some kind. That discussion-less vote with vote from beyond the prize. The way of influencing the game. We won't know exactly what way the game will be influenced. We do know that in some way the game will be influenced.

So, scum team anon-voted manatee, and one scum also voted manatee. And the other 2 scum were off wagon.

I dunno. It feels like they could easily have lost that vote. It was a tie that was apparently settled by vote pm timing.

[Cabd]

I didn't just get to watch the dead PT. I interacted with the dead folks too.
Btw I asked DGB what ability she used during N1 and she said "Show your strength."

It pronouns. Not she.

But noted


Here's my concern. A game of guess who has a guaranteed winner. Players take turns until somebody wins.

But the night two challenge you've described could potentially have no winners.

WHO chose your name? Just you? If so there are two scum why wouldn't they just choose me and a backup option of you if it's Luke. After all. The limpool is effectively us three.

Why wouldn't scum hedge bets?

[Cabd]

Additionally according to you the night one challenge was done and effect granted going into day two. But the night two challenge is still being played by those who were dead going into night two???

[GuyInFreezer]

It pronouns. Not she.

WHY
WHY CAN'T I REMEMBER ITS PRONOUN
LIKE I TRY SO HARD
BUT WHEN I POST WITH WHILE NOT THINKING IT JUST DEFAULTS
ADJFASLKJDASLKFJLAKSD

[Lukewarm]

You alone wouldn't have maybe.
What if scumGamma asked you to?

I most likely would have told him no.

But even if we got past that point, then on the Governor vote I would have protected Gamma every time. I was pretty comfortable walking into that vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

Additionally according to you the night one challenge was done and effect granted going into day two. But the night two challenge is still being played by those who were dead going into night two???

The challenges are different.
N1 challenge was "guess the character."
N2 challenge is "guess the final VC"

[Cabd]

Also.... if the account that faced off against S_S is a factional ability, scum might have gotten to make THREE bets.

Which means it's possible that scum guessed all three of the limpool names and is assured to co-win anyways.

[GuyInFreezer]

But the night two challenge you've described could potentially have no winners.

Oh it's point system.
3 points if you correctly guess the lim.
1 point each if you correctly guess who voted whom at the end.

[Lukewarm]

WHO chose your name? Just you? If so there are two scum why wouldn't they just choose me and a backup option of you if it's Luke. After all. The limpool is effectively us three.

Why is LLD consitantly outside of your lim pool?

Because, I am looking more at her then Gif.

If it was Gamma+Gif, why was Gamma not protected? There would have been no danger of his partner being voted off.