Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[PenguinPower]

boop

[PenguinPower]

i'm just an impatient bird

[PenguinPower]

and tbf - i asked pooky to let me know when he was ready

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bee are you changing your suspicions from gamma to best bird?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

wow you are really getting into it huh

If I’m gonna be made to work for the win I’m not going to just sit back and hope, I’m going to actively try and figure out what indicates it’s someone else over me
As mentioned in my last post, the VCs seem to be showing that scum were playing a certain way that while it’s easy to come to that conclusion FMPOV, it shouldn’t be impossible for others to see it.

I don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing, but I'm happy to hear your thoughts.

[Bee]

EeEEEehh not really, but I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t like Gamma’s fight that just popped up.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m talking in terms of positioning. And while I wasn’t quite certain of that theory before, I am now.
When I was initially surveying the D1 VCs I noted Bee and PP parked on Enchant for a while. That initially led to me thinking one of them did a “bus buddies and run deep” play. That’s why I had no concrete suspicion between them for a time. Then the time came when the wagons on me and Enchant dissolved simultaneously, and PP lingered on Enchant for another VC before ending up on a vanity wagon for the rest of the day. Then comes D2, where PP immediately votes Auro and then moves to MM when that’s where thread climate is pointing. And during D3, when the final wagon on Auro formed PP was second on that as well. So that cements to idea that PP is replicating Alter Ego’s play in FGO 2 just about perfectly, except he fell off at critical moments.
Bee parallels Berserker!me because shortly before I died I professed a misguided faith that Alter Ego was town. I also think role play wise Bee kinda lines up with me what with the very disappointing cop checks and me being completely out of step with utilizing my abilities “the right way” as Berserker.
The labels of Caster, Assassin, and Lancer all go to who I think are the kill the night before ELo, the one dueling scum in ELo, and the one that decides the outcome, respectively.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: A selection of VCs that I think illustrate what I said about Penguin in my last post

vote count 1.04

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

ManateeGal [4]:

PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald, Miss Midnight, Thor Ragnarok

Enchant [3]:

Titus, the worst, Harvey and Haley

the worst [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, ManateeGal

Flea The Magician [1]:

Bee

Titus [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, House

mod notes

~ everyone has confirmed!

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vote count 1.06

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

ManateeGal [4]:

PenguinPower, Miss Midnight, Thor Ragnarok, House

Enchant [3]:

Titus, the worst, Harvey and Haley

House [2]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald

the worst [1]:

Cat Scratch Fever

Flea The Magician [1]:

Bee

Titus [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ boop

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vote count 1.08

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Thor Ragnarok [3]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst

House [3]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Bee

Gamma Emerald [2]:

House, Harvey and Haley

Cat Scratch Fever [2]:

Thor Ragnarok, Enchant

Enchant [1]:

Titus

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

ManateeGal [1]:

PenguinPower

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ thanks for the kind wishes <3

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vote count 1.09

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

House [5]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Bee, PenguinPower, Harvey and Haley

Thor Ragnarok [4]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Miss Midnight [1]:

Thor Ragnarok

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ ribbit

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vote count 1.10

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

House [4]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Harvey and Haley

Thor Ragnarok [4]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus

Miss Midnight [2]:

Thor Ragnarok, Bee

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.11

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Thor Ragnarok [5]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus, PenguinPower

House [3]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Harvey and Haley

Miss Midnight [2]:

Thor Ragnarok, Bee

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.12

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Thor Ragnarok [5]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus, PenguinPower

House [2]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald

Miss Midnight [1]:

Thor Ragnarok

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

Enchant [1]:

Bee

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Harvey and Haley

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.13

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Thor Ragnarok [3]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst

Enchant [3]:

Bee, Titus, PenguinPower

House [2]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald

Miss Midnight [1]:

Thor Ragnarok

Gamma Emerald [1]:

House

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Harvey and Haley

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.16

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Enchant [4]:

Bee, Titus, PenguinPower, ManateeGal

Miss Midnight [3]:

Thor Ragnarok, Cat Scratch Fever, Harvey and Haley

Thor Ragnarok [2]:

Miss Midnight, the worst

Harvey and Haley [2]:

Flea The Magician, Gamma Emerald

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

ManateeGal [1]:

House

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.19

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Enchant [4]:

Bee, Titus, PenguinPower, ManateeGal

Gamma Emerald [4]:

Miss Midnight, the worst, Thor Ragnarok, Harvey and Haley

Miss Midnight [3]:

Cat Scratch Fever, House, Gamma Emerald

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.20

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Gamma Emerald [5]:

Miss Midnight, the worst, Thor Ragnarok, Harvey and Haley, Enchant

Enchant [4]:

Bee, Titus, PenguinPower, ManateeGal

Miss Midnight [3]:

Cat Scratch Fever, House, Gamma Emerald

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.21

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Gamma Emerald [6]:

Miss Midnight, the worst, Thor Ragnarok, Harvey and Haley, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever

Enchant [4]:

Bee, Titus, PenguinPower, ManateeGal

ManateeGal [2]:

House, Gamma Emerald

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.24

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Gamma Emerald [6]:

Miss Midnight, the worst, Thor Ragnarok, Auro, Cat Scratch Fever, Flea The Magician

Enchant [6]:

Bee, PenguinPower, ManateeGal, House, Gamma Emerald, Titus

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Enchant

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.25

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

ManateeGal [4]:

Bee, Gamma Emerald, Thor Ragnarok, the worst

Gamma Emerald [3]:

Miss Midnight, Auro, Flea The Magician

Flea The Magician [2]:

Titus, Cat Scratch Fever

Enchant [2]:

PenguinPower, ManateeGal

Miss Midnight [1]:

House

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Enchant

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.26

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

ManateeGal [6]:

Bee, Gamma Emerald, Thor Ragnarok, the worst, Flea The Magician, PenguinPower

Miss Midnight [2]:

House, Auro

Flea The Magician [1]:

Cat Scratch Fever

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Miss Midnight

Enchant [1]:

ManateeGal

Thor Ragnarok [1]

Titus

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Enchant

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.28

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

ManateeGal [5]:

Bee, Gamma Emerald, the worst, House, Cat Scratch Fever

Miss Midnight [2]:

Auro, PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald [2]:

Miss Midnight, Thor Ragnarok

Enchant [1]:

ManateeGal

Thor Ragnarok [1]

Titus

Titus [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Enchant

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.29

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Enchant [5]:

House, the worst, ManateeGal, Auro, Gamma Emerald

Titus [3]:

Flea The Magician, Thor Ragnarok, Cat Scratch Fever

ManateeGal [2]:

Bee, Enchant

Miss Midnight [1]:

PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Miss Midnight

Thor Ragnarok [1]

Titus

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.30

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Enchant [5]:

the worst, ManateeGal, Auro, Gamma Emerald, Miss Midnight

Titus [5]:

Flea The Magician, Thor Ragnarok, Cat Scratch Fever, House, Enchant

ManateeGal [1]:

Bee

Miss Midnight [1]:

PenguinPower

Thor Ragnarok [1]

Titus

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.31

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

yeet

Enchant [6]:

the worst, ManateeGal, Auro, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Bee

Titus [5]:

Flea The Magician, Thor Ragnarok, Cat Scratch Fever, House, Enchant

Miss Midnight [1]:

PenguinPower

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Miss Midnight

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 1.final

with 14 votes in play, it took 8 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

Enchant [8]:

the worst, ManateeGal, Auro, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Bee, Cat Scratch Fever, House

[HAMMER]

Titus [3]:

Flea The Magician, Thor Ragnarok, Enchant

Miss Midnight [1]:

PenguinPower

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Miss Midnight

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 2.01

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-09-13 03:15:00).

yeet

Auro [1]:

PenguinPower

Thor Ragnarok [1]:

Cat Scratch Fever

Miss Midnight [1]:

House

not voting [9]:

Flea the Magician, Something_Smart, Thor Ragnarok, Miss Midnight, Gamma Emerald, ManateeGal, Auro, Titus, Bee

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 2.02

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-09-13 03:15:00).

yeet

Miss Midnight [4]:

PenguinPower, House, ManateeGal, Cat Scratch Fever

Thor Ragnarok [1]:

Auro

not voting [7]:

Flea the Magician, Something_Smart, Thor Ragnarok, Miss Midnight, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Bee

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 2.03

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-09-13 03:15:00).

yeet

Miss Midnight [4]:

PenguinPower, House, ManateeGal, Cat Scratch Fever

Thor Ragnarok [2]:

Auro, Gamma Emerald

PenguinPower [1]:

Something_Smart

not voting [5]:

Flea the Magician, Thor Ragnarok, Miss Midnight, Titus, Bee

mod notes

~ i'm not counting 2547, as georgebailey is immune to all lethal forces known to man, which includes yeeting.
~ this vc was made after a sleepless night with just thesp's vote counter while phoneposting, because i currently do not have the time to turn my laptop on and reread the game from the last vc. please let me know if there are errors. this mod note is about 95% an excuse to complain about insomnia.
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vote count 2.05

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-09-13 03:15:00).

yeet

Miss Midnight [5]:

PenguinPower, ManateeGal, Cat Scratch Fever, Bee, Gamma Emerald

Auro [2]:

Titus, Thor Ragnarok

Something_Smart [2]:

Flea The Magician, House

Thor Ragnarok [1]:

Auro

PenguinPower [1]:

Something_Smart

not voting [1]:

Miss Midnight

mod notes

~ still making these only via the automatic vote counter, lemme know if there are errors.
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vote count 2.final

with 12 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

yeet

Miss Midnight [7]:

PenguinPower, ManateeGal, Cat Scratch Fever, Bee, Gamma Emerald, Thor Ragnarok, House

[HAMMER]

Auro [1]:

Titus

Something_Smart [1]:

Flea The Magician

Thor Ragnarok [1]:

Auro

not voting [2]:

Miss Midnight, Something_Smart

mod notes

~ dual mod iso

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vote count 3.03

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Something_Smart [4]:

Flea the Magician, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower, Auro

Bee [1]:

Something_Smart

not voting [5]:

ManateeGal, Titus, Bee, Thor Ragnarok, Gamma Emerald

mod notes

~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ dual mod iso

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vote count 3.04

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [1]:

Something_Smart

Auro [1]:

Titus

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [5]:

ManateeGal, Bee, Thor Ragnarok, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower

mod notes

~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ dual mod iso

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vote count 3.05

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Auro [3]:

Titus, PenguinPower, ManateeGal

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [1]:

Something_Smart

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [3]:

Bee, Thor Ragnarok, Gamma Emerald,

mod notes

~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ dual mod iso

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vote count 3.06

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Auro [2]:

Titus, PenguinPower

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [2]:

Something_Smart, Flea The Magician

not voting [4]:

Bee, Thor Ragnarok, Gamma Emerald, StrangeMatter

mod notes

~ StrangeMatter is the new ManateeGal
~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ gamma emerald v/la till the 24th
~ i'm currently sick, apologies if mod response times slow down
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vote count 3.07

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Auro [4]:

Titus, PenguinPower, Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [3]:

Bee, Thor Ragnarok, StrangeMatter

mod notes

~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ gamma emerald v/la till the 24th
~ i'm currently sick, apologies if mod response times slow down
~ dual mod iso

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vote count 3.final

with 10 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 3 ended.

yeet

Auro [6]:

Titus, PenguinPower, Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald, StrangeMatter, Bee

[HAMMER]

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [1]:

Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:

Thor Ragnarok

mod notes

~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ gamma emerald v/la till the 24th
~ i'm currently sick, apologies if mod response times slow down
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VOTE: Penguin
At this point I’m pretty well locked in on this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Bee parallels Berserker!me because shortly before I died I professed a misguided faith that Alter Ego was town.

To expand on this I recall also saying to yeet Rider, which I think has a more tangible parallel in Bee voting me as her last expression of suspicion, meanwhile the misplaced faith moreso applies to Pooky/CSF

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

delicious drama

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am willing to sheep you on Pengy if you pay for it in blood.

all glory to you if you are right. but if bee is scum it is your fault :3

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think that’s even necessary. Switching meta gears here, I feel like Enchant tried to paint the me vs. him as similar to him vs. SS in Radio Buzz.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that doesn't do anything for me

[Gamma Emerald]

Fine then. I’m okay with the paying in blood portion. I’m not okay with you lording it over me if I’m wrong. I’m not the one who expressed 100% read rate on anybody.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well if bee is scum and i wanted to kill her and you were like nah lets kill best bird instead and we lost to bee-scum why wouldnt i :3

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you actually think Bee is scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea duh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do u not find it weird that ms first pick is still alive 5 days in as a claimed cop? lol

[Gamma Emerald]

That is suspicious but I was expecting an actual case

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I have a question for you. Who do you think was most secure in believing they wouldn’t be checked last night?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Also, I have a question for you. Who do you think was most secure in believing they wouldn’t be checked last night?

Well, Bee

[Cat Scratch Fever]

That is suspicious but I was expecting an actual case

I think it's pretty significant? Neither you nor PP have anything to gain from the WIFOM of keeping ascetic cop alive. Killing Titus and keeping Town!Bee alive just trades an inno (Titus) for another inno (me).

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That is suspicious but I was expecting an actual case

she didnt say she was happy to roll town

[Bee]

That is suspicious but I was expecting an actual case

I think it's pretty significant? Neither you nor PP have anything to gain from the WIFOM of keeping ascetic cop alive. Killing Titus and keeping Town!Bee alive just trades an inno (Titus) for another inno (me).

Meh I think multiple people (or at least PP + Titus) came into the day saying I needed to die which like, yes, so there’s a benefit if scum thinks they’ll avoid my check.

[Bee]

That is suspicious but I was expecting an actual case

she didnt say she was happy to roll town

I wish I was neighborizer. ):