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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:59 am

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In post 1872, Sanae wrote:Um no it's not just that he didn't perform the nightkill.

He didn't perform
any action


Why would scum decide to not use their Watcher and idle a player?

Because they psychically knew the MD-Hider was going to target them?

It's ludicrious
That’s why it’s only 2%.
Scum could have a factional multitasking for all we know.
Like I’m treating this mechanically for the most part. And just paranoia of deepscum.
But like, it’s 2%. That means I’m calling him 98% town.
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:59 am

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In post 1874, Sanae wrote:
In post 1873, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.
this is ridiculous.

why would I waste my time doing this.

you're literally saying that I have decided to spend 5x as much effort on a day that the game is literally unwinnable for scum!me as the other 2 days when I have a chance to win?

How does that even make sense?
Spite is a great motivator.
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:00 am

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In post 1875, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1872, Sanae wrote:Um no it's not just that he didn't perform the nightkill.

He didn't perform
any action


Why would scum decide to not use their Watcher and idle a player?

Because they psychically knew the MD-Hider was going to target them?

It's ludicrious
That’s why it’s only 2%.
Scum could have a factional multitasking for all we know.
Like I’m treating this mechanically for the most part. And just paranoia of deepscum.
But like, it’s 2%. That means I’m calling him 98% town.
In post 2, unwnd wrote:7) Nobody can multitask unless specified otherwise.
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:01 am

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In post 1876, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1874, Sanae wrote:
In post 1873, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.
this is ridiculous.

why would I waste my time doing this.

you're literally saying that I have decided to spend 5x as much effort on a day that the game is literally unwinnable for scum!me as the other 2 days when I have a chance to win?

How does that even make sense?
Spite is a great motivator.
? What spite are you even talking about?
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:02 am

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In post 1877, Sanae wrote:
In post 1875, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1872, Sanae wrote:Um no it's not just that he didn't perform the nightkill.

He didn't perform
any action


Why would scum decide to not use their Watcher and idle a player?

Because they psychically knew the MD-Hider was going to target them?

It's ludicrious
That’s why it’s only 2%.
Scum could have a factional multitasking for all we know.
Like I’m treating this mechanically for the most part. And just paranoia of deepscum.
But like, it’s 2%. That means I’m calling him 98% town.
In post 2, unwnd wrote:7) Nobody can multitask unless specified otherwise.
It could be specified in the scum PT.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:03 am

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In post 1878, Sanae wrote:
In post 1876, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1874, Sanae wrote:
In post 1873, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.
this is ridiculous.

why would I waste my time doing this.

you're literally saying that I have decided to spend 5x as much effort on a day that the game is literally unwinnable for scum!me as the other 2 days when I have a chance to win?

How does that even make sense?
Spite is a great motivator.
? What spite are you even talking about?
“Fuck this game, if I’m losing I’m taking someone down with me.”
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:03 am

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In post 1873, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Like I still think game ends between Sanae/Gamma.

I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.
I can see scum-Gamma just floating around with 0 hope but just not conceding already because he thinks it’s against the rules.
Ok so explain to me how the double day works into Gamma conceding at some point. He would be in a decent spot tomorrow no?

Also if Norwee was multitasking I’d know, since Norwee would’ve taken an action and looking back I realized Lukewarm didn’t mention he was Frail Hider, just that there is a rule for either of us to not be able to act twice.
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:05 am

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Tomorrow and today I can’t see why you’d concede and ask about breaking a rule.
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:07 am

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In post 1881, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 1873, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Like I still think game ends between Sanae/Gamma.

I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.
I can see scum-Gamma just floating around with 0 hope but just not conceding already because he thinks it’s against the rules.
Ok so explain to me how the double day works into Gamma conceding at some point. He would be in a decent spot tomorrow no?

Also if Norwee was multitasking I’d know, since Norwee would’ve taken an action and looking back I realized Lukewarm didn’t mention he was Frail Hider, just that there is a rule for either of us to not be able to act twice.
If Kilga did all the kill and watch N1 then scum-Norwee wouldn’t have had to take any action.
Like I said again though, it’s a low chance (2%) and only in a chance of deepscum.
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 1882, StrangeMatter wrote:Tomorrow and today I can’t see why you’d concede and ask about breaking a rule.
Also you lost me on double day thing and conceding thing.
What are you trying to ask?
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:09 am

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Idk I was typing fast. Maybe we are just overthinking this game lol.
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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:10 am

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I still don't get why do you believe that LLD is town, and Gamma is possible as scum.
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:11 am

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I really want to reduce my pool to 2 though.
Because today is going to be LLD mislim and I can’t seem to stop that from happening.
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:13 am

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In post 1887, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I really want to reduce my pool to 2 though.
Because today is going to be LLD mislim and I can’t seem to stop that from happening.
That's...very unhelpful can you give me a comprehensive reason as to why you believe LLD is town and the decision on voting them is a miselim/why it is bad to be voting them out?
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:14 am

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In post 1886, StrangeMatter wrote:I still don't get why do you believe that LLD is town, and Gamma is possible as scum.
LLD scum would try harder than “if I’m scum you eat crow”
Also her mech solve plan was sound with a plan to have a chance to confirm her town and get lim if failed to do so.
Like y’all think she would try to go back on her word on that as scum, but if she try to do so will y’all let her? Hell no.

I’ll write the rest up later because I need to do something rq
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:15 am

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In post 1888, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 1887, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I really want to reduce my pool to 2 though.
Because today is going to be LLD mislim and I can’t seem to stop that from happening.
That's...very unhelpful can you give me a comprehensive reason as to why you believe LLD is town and the decision on voting them is a miselim/why it is bad to be voting them out?
Because imagine having to see my townread get limmed. We have 3 lims to net scum so if we’re wasting one on LLD clearly I need to try to reduce my pool to two.
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:30 am

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Also my reads are heavily based on mechanics atm.

Big part of my LLD read is that it is a really inconvenient role for scum to not have a vote and has to wait a phase to vanillize herself just to vote. Mokou as an ascetic makes 0 sense and fakeclaiming immortality will only cause (normally) for town PRs to be on her to check her ridiculous claim out. Also I think if she was scum ascetic I think she would’ve claimed that D1 for neg utility towncred.
Scum having invincibility is weird even with SK (who could’ve been a survivor so not 100%) when scum already flipped a protective.
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:37 am

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So why do I have gamma in my scum pool?
He looked like he was demotivated when the town auto-win talk was happening. Town should be thrilled to talk about auto win possibility.
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:39 am

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Town auto-win having a chance to happen (which is going to be thrown into the trashcan because LLD is going to be mislimmed today) and thinking that he is not allowed to just concede because he thinks it's against the rule quite fits the reasoning.
It might be something else, of course. But I think this is the best explanation I can think of.
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:46 am

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But that's enough talk about others.
Let's talk about me.

Last day phase I spoke of wifoming between Gamma and Norwee. SirCakez died. If I was scum, why would I throw the game by not killing Norwee? Like it was pretty obvious that letting town-Norwee alive will trigger a chain or role interaction that can just mech-find the last scum and I think my posts today proves that I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to planning things. Why would I go after someone outside of my two-players-list when I could've just killed Norwee when I know he wouldn't delay me due to thread consensus leading to delaying Reg and claim that "well shit I was on Gamma?"
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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:46 am

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And before just thoughtlessly going "WIFOM" think about what I would gain by WIFOMing this compared to what I would lose.
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 1892, Yukari Yakumo wrote:So why do I have gamma in my scum pool?
He looked like he was demotivated when the town auto-win talk was happening. Town should be thrilled to talk about auto win possibility.
What do you mean?
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:59 am

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In post 1894, Yukari Yakumo wrote:But that's enough talk about others.
Let's talk about me.

Last day phase I spoke of wifoming between Gamma and Norwee. SirCakez died. If I was scum, why would I throw the game by not killing Norwee? Like it was pretty obvious that letting town-Norwee alive will trigger a chain or role interaction that can just mech-find the last scum and I think my posts today proves that I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to planning things. Why would I go after someone outside of my two-players-list when I could've just killed Norwee when I know he wouldn't delay me due to thread consensus leading to delaying Reg and claim that "well shit I was on Gamma?"

why would any scum not kill norwee unless they are ascetic and trying to use him to get cleared?
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:00 am

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if the last scum is not ascetic, they should have killed norwee last night. better to have a chance of winning then be locked into a mech loss regardless of how likely the doc protect is
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:00 am

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In post 1897, Sanae wrote:why would any scum not kill norwee unless they are ascetic and trying to use him to get cleared?
That's not about me though.
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