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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:01 am

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In post 1889, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1886, StrangeMatter wrote:I still don't get why do you believe that LLD is town, and Gamma is possible as scum.
LLD scum would try harder than “if I’m scum you eat crow”
Also her mech solve plan was sound with a plan to have a chance to confirm her town and get lim if failed to do so.
Like y’all think she would try to go back on her word on that as scum, but if she try to do so will y’all let her? Hell no.

I’ll write the rest up later because I need to do something rq
her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:02 am

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In post 1896, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What do you mean?
Compare his post attitude between pre-D4 and D4 (today). I think seeing it for yourself will be better than me having to explain.
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:02 am

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In post 1899, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1897, Sanae wrote:why would any scum not kill norwee unless they are ascetic and trying to use him to get cleared?
That's not about me though.
i dont think you r scum i think lld is scum
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:02 am

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In post 1900, Sanae wrote:her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic
And I don't think she's ascetic.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:03 am

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In post 1891, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Also my reads are heavily based on mechanics atm.

Big part of my LLD read is that it is a really inconvenient role for scum to not have a vote and has to wait a phase to vanillize herself just to vote. Mokou as an ascetic makes 0 sense and fakeclaiming immortality will only cause (normally) for town PRs to be on her to check her ridiculous claim out. Also I think if she was scum ascetic I think she would’ve claimed that D1 for neg utility towncred.
Scum having invincibility is weird even with SK (who could’ve been a survivor so not 100%) when scum already flipped a protective.

why would a town player who is immune to nightkills claim to be immune to nightkills?

doesnt it make more sense to try to draw scum nightkills to gain tempo?
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:04 am

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In post 1903, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1900, Sanae wrote:her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic
And I don't think she's ascetic.
i refuse to watch lld win another game as last scum because of your mech spec
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:06 am

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Ah, so that was your basis all along.
Paranoia.
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:07 am

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shes also very very very scummy
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 1905, Sanae wrote:
In post 1903, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1900, Sanae wrote:her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic
And I don't think she's ascetic.
i refuse to watch lld win another game as last scum because of your mech spec
There's history to this?
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:08 am

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In post 1907, Sanae wrote:shes also very very very scummy
I agree, but it's like. Almost too scummy to be scum. I feel like their weird outburst and consequent flaking from the game would be odd if they were mafia. Because why not at least try if they are supposedly that good?
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:09 am

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lld is famous for winning 1v11s 1v9s etc

she once claimed masons with someone, janitored them and cruised to a win

if there is a mech angle she can use to conftown herself she will take it.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:10 am

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Honestly that LLD-ascetic theory came out of nowhere and that made me think you could be scum pulling everything you got to take LLD with you.
Massive paranoia also makes sense I guess.
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 1909, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1907, Sanae wrote:shes also very very very scummy
I agree, but it's like. Almost too scummy to be scum. I feel like their weird outburst and consequent flaking from the game would be odd if they were mafia. Because why not at least try if they are supposedly that good?
she tries the perfect amount to get townread and survive.

she understands when to exert pressure and when to lie low.
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 1910, Sanae wrote:she once claimed masons with someone, janitored them and cruised to a win
And I modded that game!
The game of legend.
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:11 am

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Why you just calling it paranoia Yukari. They aren't really cleared from being scum.
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 1911, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Honestly that LLD-ascetic theory came out of nowhere and that made me think you could be scum pulling everything you got to take LLD with you.
Massive paranoia also makes sense I guess.

why would i try 10x more on a day where my scumteam has already lost than the other days when we can have a chance to win?

like honestly I don't need this in my life.
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:12 am

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Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:13 am

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i dont see why anyone leaves norweegian boy alive to clear people and lock the game in mechwin

so the only explanation for me is that scum have something to gain from leaving him alive

such as being falsecleared off a block

hence ascetic scum

hence LLD jumping up and down asking to be blocked.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:13 am

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In post 1916, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.
See stuff like this is why my paranoia on you is never quenching.
You keep finding ways to increase the pool while everyone else try to decrease it.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:14 am

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They left me alive cus my reads so bad.
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:14 am

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In post 1918, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1916, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.
See stuff like this is why my paranoia on you is never quenching.
You keep finding ways to increase the pool while everyone else try to decrease it.
If i was scum here i would probably just keep lolpushing LLD. No reason to change my stance at all.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:14 am

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In post 1917, Sanae wrote:so the only explanation for me is that scum have something to gain from leaving him alive
Or they wanted to not risk their kill being blocked and kill the next unknown who claimed to have "good stuff": SirCakez.
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:15 am

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I don't do anything extra as scum. Too lazy.
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:18 am

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In post 1920, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1918, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1916, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.
See stuff like this is why my paranoia on you is never quenching.
You keep finding ways to increase the pool while everyone else try to decrease it.
If i was scum here i would probably just keep lolpushing LLD. No reason to change my stance at all.
That is not the vibe I got in Open 767 though.
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:19 am

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a kill being blocked doesnt even advance the game state because we wont know if its cuz reg got delayed or a doc protect saved norwee

its fine for scum to get their kill blocked.

it is much much much worse for them to be locked into a mech loss

the risk/reward is completely out of whack.
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