Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[GuyInFreezer]

Cabd you also gotta understand.
There is going to be a challenge during Night 3 too.
If scum win that we potentially face two scum advantages.

[Kate Bishop]

This is a game from a long long long time ago, where town-Cabd hydra went into self-sacrifice mode. One difference from here was that the game was pretty close to locked in for town by just elimming the players who weren't confirmed town one way or another.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p5326297

From a town-Cabd perspective this isn't a locked in town win today, but there are enough parallels for it to be somewhat informative.

I've thought back on the Chef mafia game several times throughout the course of this game.

I hate this. I locked onto him as scum the moment I saw the result of the no-discussion vote, and I can't get over the initial impression, and also can't get over knowing there were 2 scum-votes on manatee...and Cabd.

Before GiF's return, I assumed that scum had no more warning than town did (NONE) and with their PT locked, had no way to discuss how to vote or avoid the possibility of all being on the same wagon.

But they did have the knowledge of the extra vote and where they put it when they private threads were locked, and they had the opporunity to discuss how they should vote, and who should be off-wagon while deciding where the extra vote should be placed.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I hope he told you your anime tastes are as shit as he told me mine were.

*cries*

And... and then...
He told me he doesnt consider Death Parade a- a- an....
Isekai!

*cries some more*

[Kate Bishop]

Cabd you also gotta understand.
There is going to be a challenge during Night 3 too.
If scum win that we potentially face two scum advantages.

ugh.

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Cabd:

fuck off pressuring us to vote before we're ready.

[Cabd]

Cabd you also gotta understand.
There is going to be a challenge during Night 3 too.
If scum win that we potentially face two scum advantages.

Yes, well, we could also summon Exodia and town is awarded a public loud daycop or something. At some point you gotta stop fearing the unknowns and just commit.

[GuyInFreezer]

Like we could just lim Luke.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, you're gonna need to stop being selfish I think.

[GuyInFreezer]

I really should be rereading.
But like
I'm tired
and lazy
and thought of that alone makes me want to lie down right now.

[Cabd]

Cabd, you're gonna need to stop being selfish I think.

Define "selfish"?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, you're gonna need to stop being selfish I think.

Define "selfish"?

You are making this day weird by demanding your own death for the selfish reason that you don't want t have to fight tomorrow if Luke is wrong.

And as a result you're skewing all of the information available, demotivating everyone involved and also making it harder to play around this stupid mystery game.

It's selfish behaviour because you don't wanna give someone the satisfaction if they are scum? Are you kidding me?

[Cabd]

Sorry, I'm like, ubertilted.

What do you want to do?

Do you think that gif's prize is worth eliminating him here?

Do you want to just kill luke outright?

Right now it's essentially the gif-cabd-kate three player band here so I'll step back, but nobody else is really... doing anything.

[GuyInFreezer]

Most optimal way is to end the game today.
And yes I'm aware I'm self-voting right now.

UNVOTE:

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sorry, I'm like, ubertilted.

What do you want to do?

Do you think that gif's prize is worth eliminating him here?

Do you want to just kill luke outright?

Right now it's essentially the gif-cabd-kate three player band here so I'll step back, but nobody else is really... doing anything.

I want to kill Luke today, and if the game doesn't end... We're looking at a team that contains Dunnstral and Gamma.

I don't know if Dunnstral dies the way he did if you're on his team. I don't know that you do the thing with Marci if you're on her team. It's harder for me to see that. Not impossible, but harder.

So at that point... it's

"Could GIF have killed using me while no longer in the real world?"

vs.

"Does Cabd really do the things with Marci and let Dunn die if they're scum together?"

vs.

"Is the stuff that made Kate obvious town to me really untrue?"

Which I'm more willing to assess and develop tomorrow, I think.

[Lukewarm]

I think that it is just cabd, with the long shot on LLD.

Kyouko's guilty on Dunn never comes from scum kyouko
Kate's push on Gamma mid governor vote never comes from scum kate. She could have either let the me wagon go through, or pushed for no elim. But instead, she killed Gamma.
Gamma is always protected by the governor if GIF is scum (and maybe the kill would not happen, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

So, those three are off the table imo.

That just leaves Cabd/LLD. I would kill Cabd every time here if it was not for these isekai / dead pt games. I think he is still my top choice, even with that. I think it just ends the game. But if people are scared of it, I can go LLD.

Killing LLD, if she is town, would forces the scum's hand. They have to kill kyouko, because she becomes an alignment cop with LLD off the board. So that puts us in [me+kate+cabd+gif] melo, which from my pov is better then the other options. (sorry kyouko, but I would chose Kate to go to Melo over you)

So, if we are killing Cabd, great. If not, then I can do LLD.

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: cabd

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh boy I really am going to MeLo aren't I

[GuyInFreezer]

Man fuck this game I just wanted to troll and maybe be town while y'all just carry my lazy ass to victory
Y'all are slowly forcing me to work here

[GuyInFreezer]

All right fine fine I'll reread this 197 pages of mess.
I actually need to solidify things today because if I'm wrong on Luke I only get like a week next day or some shit.

[Kate Bishop]

Right now it's essentially the gif-cabd-kate three player band here so I'll step back, but nobody else is really... doing anything.

Why is it just these 3?

[Cabd]

...Posting levels of today?

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah my cabd read is locktown so I am going to skip reviewing that read.

[Kate Bishop]

I was wondering why SSBM was left off is all.

Waiting at a drive thru before I continue my trek and wanted to ask.

[Kate Bishop]

Oh yeah my cabd read is locktown so I am going to skip reviewing that read.

You’re going to need to lay this out for both of us js

[Kate Bishop]

...Posting levels of today?

I don't think posting levels are an accurate gauge of involvement/investment.

[Cabd]

a drive thru

Of which said drivethru is a taco bell and you got a baja blast freeze, rite?