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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 498, Save The Dragons wrote:i like cool cookie and house for town
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 499, House wrote:
In post 479, Save The Dragons wrote:god i reread the game and still came up with jack shit
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 481, Save The Dragons wrote:do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee
I'll get back to you on this after ketchup. I'll have to ISO them.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 384, redtea wrote:actually I think you both are saying the same thing
I'm not actually back but I'm checking in, which has apparently been a mistake because I'm all over the place
In post 362, Jacket wrote:I think redtea's reaction to being wagoned is bad.
well thats just cause you're scummy
is that a take ive posted yet?
Am I scummy because I think your reaction is bad?
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:41 am

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In post 487, Three wrote:
In post 481, Save The Dragons wrote:do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee
I voted Osetr because I didn't like them and because they would be a liability in ELo.

Dwlee so far is not that but also not much else either.
Fair take on Osetr, tbh.

I like playing with dwlee. I hope he's not scum this game.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:44 am

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In post 488, cool cookie wrote:would be good to see an explanation of the second sentence?
I can hazard a guess as to what the explanation will be, but I'll keep quiet about my opinion until I see an answer.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:44 am

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fua is still obvious mafia. House seems fine. Not much else is interesting.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 487, Three wrote:
In post 481, Save The Dragons wrote:do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee
I voted Osetr because I didn't like them and because they would be a liability in ELo.

Dwlee so far is not that but also not much else either.
You were concerned about someone being an ELO liability on day 1?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 490, cool cookie wrote:in which case, you become effectively vanilla. so why not elim you?
Because if we lim scum, we can use the bullet to hunt for the partner. Particularly if we get the scum!PR.

Also, if we run up a player that claims VT, there's the danger of redtea testing that claim.

redtea never makes it to ELo regardless of alignment. Let's use our lim to find otherscum.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:50 am

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In post 490, cool cookie wrote:i sort of struggle to believe fua-scum would protect redtea-traitor like this though...
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:52 am

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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 490, cool cookie wrote:it's exactly the sort of claim which might get them out of trouble
That's a really short-term strategy. If redtea is fakeclaiming, no 2nd kill on a scum lim outs them, and vig is explicitly a town only role.

Not what I'd associate with a scum agenda.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 497, House wrote:
In post 472, T3 wrote:I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts
In post 473, Dwlee99 wrote:t3 I will policy you wtf
This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.
This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:54 am

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They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 512, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 497, House wrote:
In post 472, T3 wrote:I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts
In post 473, Dwlee99 wrote:t3 I will policy you wtf
This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.
This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him
I said nothing about your friendliness with him. I wonder why you ignored the context of my post and created your own?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:57 am

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In post 513, House wrote:
They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.
i took this to mean conditionals like fua!scum redtea!traitor

like why would fua as scum defend a potential redtea traitor
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 496, House wrote:
In post 468, T3 wrote:
In post 422, fua wrote:Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.
This also comes across as really forced but I kind of agree with what you're saying.
I don't understand how these 2 statements can coexist in the same post about the same content.

Please explain.
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As in the first part makes sense
The second part is a misrep
The post itself has a weird tone
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:01 am

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In post 514, House wrote:
In post 512, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 497, House wrote:
In post 472, T3 wrote:I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts
In post 473, Dwlee99 wrote:t3 I will policy you wtf
This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.
This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him
I said nothing about your friendliness with him. I wonder why you ignored the context of my post and created your own?
The context behind what I said is that I'm friends with him, your framing of it is just wrong
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:03 am

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I'm not going to think too deeply about asoociatives on day 1. I'm just going to vote people I find scummy.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:04 am

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In post 515, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 513, House wrote:
They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.
i took this to mean conditionals like fua!scum redtea!traitor

like why would fua as scum defend a potential redtea traitor
Again, that assumes knowledge of redtea's alignment.

There is scum equity in defending a towny that is coming under fire, so they (the scum) look good after the flip for not wanting to kill town. Especially if the lim is pushed through well before deadline.

Whomever scum is has to guess as to who the traitor is, just like the rest of us.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:05 am

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In post 493, House wrote:
In post 466, T3 wrote:
In post 418, Three wrote:
In post 406, T3 wrote:
In post 358, cool cookie wrote:i'm ambivalent about the claim. an outted traitor doesn't serve much purpose for mafia, so there isn't anything we particularly lose by giving redtea a night to prove the claim. gut is i don't buy it though
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In post 339, T3 wrote:Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though
How so?
Fua's vote on george gut pinged me as really terrible.
I see.

VOTE: Fua
uh....
Why?
I don't get this.

Between Jacket and you casing Fua, why are you confused about the vote?

This doesn't seem genuine.
Three sheeping a gut a read of mine seemed strange.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:06 am

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In post 359, cool cookie wrote:real vig cant kill a bulletproof traitor
i don't think cool cookie knows a vig can't kill BP but doesn't know that traitors are unknown to mafia
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:06 am

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In post 494, House wrote:
In post 467, T3 wrote:
In post 419, redtea wrote:
In post 417, T3 wrote:
In post 412, redtea wrote:this is ridiculous
if this isn't tvt i'll eat this delicious brownie
does scum go this hard over mechanics
People tend to write off shitfights like this as tvt
in practice they are actually slightly >rand t/s
I guess I should've said that it wasnt just the back and forth, but the vibes of it plus the fact it's all over the place
interesting tho
In post 420, redtea wrote:i think also it depends on the players
Fair.
I recently played a game where my scumpartner got into a fight with a townie that took up like half of the day and everyone wrote it off as tvt.
Do because of one instance of "shitfighting" being TvS, you consider it to be >rand TvS when it happens?

Ehhhh.
Multiple
Can't say why though.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 521, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 359, cool cookie wrote:real vig cant kill a bulletproof traitor
i don't think cool cookie knows a vig can't kill BP but doesn't know that traitors are unknown to mafia
Depends on site meta wherever he comes from, maybe? I've played it both ways.

cool cookie, did you play elsewhere where traitor was known to groupscum?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 509, House wrote:
In post 490, cool cookie wrote:i sort of struggle to believe fua-scum would protect redtea-traitor like this though...
StD/T3: is this a dumbtell?
Probably slightly town indicative.
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