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[House]

i like cool cookie and house for town

Oh, you're coming out with reads.

Ossum

[Save The Dragons]

god i reread the game and still came up with jack shit

Really?

yep this game is like 10 pages of trash and 10 pages of mech talk

[House]

do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee

I'll get back to you on this after ketchup. I'll have to ISO them.

[Jacket]

actually I think you both are saying the same thing
I'm not actually back but I'm checking in, which has apparently been a mistake because I'm all over the place

I think redtea's reaction to being wagoned is bad.

well thats just cause you're scummy
is that a take ive posted yet?

Am I scummy because I think your reaction is bad?

[House]

do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee

I voted Osetr because I didn't like them and because they would be a liability in ELo.

Dwlee so far is not that but also not much else either.

Fair take on Osetr, tbh.

I like playing with dwlee. I hope he's not scum this game.

[House]

would be good to see an explanation of the second sentence?

I can hazard a guess as to what the explanation will be, but I'll keep quiet about my opinion until I see an answer.

[Jacket]

fua is still obvious mafia. House seems fine. Not much else is interesting.

[Jacket]

do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee

I voted Osetr because I didn't like them and because they would be a liability in ELo.

Dwlee so far is not that but also not much else either.

You were concerned about someone being an ELO liability on day 1?

[House]

in which case, you become effectively vanilla. so why not elim you?

Because if we lim scum, we can use the bullet to hunt for the partner. Particularly if we get the scum!PR.

Also, if we run up a player that claims VT, there's the danger of redtea testing that claim.

redtea never makes it to ELo regardless of alignment. Let's use our lim to find otherscum.

[House]

i sort of struggle to believe fua-scum would protect redtea-traitor like this though...

StD/T3: is this a dumbtell?

[Save The Dragons]

why

[House]

it's exactly the sort of claim which might get them out of trouble

That's a really short-term strategy. If redtea is fakeclaiming, no 2nd kill on a scum lim outs them, and vig is explicitly a town only role.

Not what I'd associate with a scum agenda.

[Dwlee99]

I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts

t3 I will policy you wtf

This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.

This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him

[House]

why

They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.

[House]

I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts

t3 I will policy you wtf

This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.

This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him

I said nothing about your friendliness with him. I wonder why you ignored the context of my post and created your own?

[Save The Dragons]

why

They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.

i took this to mean conditionals like fua!scum redtea!traitor

like why would fua as scum defend a potential redtea traitor

[T3]

Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.

This also comes across as really forced but I kind of agree with what you're saying.

I don't understand how these 2 statements can coexist in the same post about the same content.

Please explain.

Kind of
As in the first part makes sense
The second part is a misrep
The post itself has a weird tone

[Dwlee99]

I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts

t3 I will policy you wtf

This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.

This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him

I said nothing about your friendliness with him. I wonder why you ignored the context of my post and created your own?

The context behind what I said is that I'm friends with him, your framing of it is just wrong

[Jacket]

I'm not going to think too deeply about asoociatives on day 1. I'm just going to vote people I find scummy.

[House]

why

They seem to be assuming that fua knows that redtea is the traitor, when mafia is uninformed as to who the traitor is.

i took this to mean conditionals like fua!scum redtea!traitor

like why would fua as scum defend a potential redtea traitor

Again, that assumes knowledge of redtea's alignment.

There is scum equity in defending a towny that is coming under fire, so they (the scum) look good after the flip for not wanting to kill town. Especially if the lim is pushed through well before deadline.

Whomever scum is has to guess as to who the traitor is, just like the rest of us.

[T3]

i'm ambivalent about the claim. an outted traitor doesn't serve much purpose for mafia, so there isn't anything we particularly lose by giving redtea a night to prove the claim. gut is i don't buy it though

Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though

How so?

Fua's vote on george gut pinged me as really terrible.

I see.

VOTE: Fua

uh....
Why?

I don't get this.

Between Jacket and you casing Fua, why are you confused about the vote?

This doesn't seem genuine.

Three sheeping a gut a read of mine seemed strange.

[Save The Dragons]

real vig cant kill a bulletproof traitor

i don't think cool cookie knows a vig can't kill BP but doesn't know that traitors are unknown to mafia

[T3]

this is ridiculous
if this isn't tvt i'll eat this delicious brownie
does scum go this hard over mechanics

People tend to write off shitfights like this as tvt
in practice they are actually slightly >rand t/s

I guess I should've said that it wasnt just the back and forth, but the vibes of it plus the fact it's all over the place
interesting tho

i think also it depends on the players

Fair.
I recently played a game where my scumpartner got into a fight with a townie that took up like half of the day and everyone wrote it off as tvt.

Do because of one instance of "shitfighting" being TvS, you consider it to be >rand TvS when it happens?

Ehhhh.

Multiple
Can't say why though.

[House]

real vig cant kill a bulletproof traitor

i don't think cool cookie knows a vig can't kill BP but doesn't know that traitors are unknown to mafia

Depends on site meta wherever he comes from, maybe? I've played it both ways.

cool cookie, did you play elsewhere where traitor was known to groupscum?

[T3]

i sort of struggle to believe fua-scum would protect redtea-traitor like this though...

StD/T3: is this a dumbtell?

Probably slightly town indicative.