newbie 2080: correct statements (this is over)

[Spangled]

As if to prove my point, in that game after revealing tracker, we eliminated the mafia power role d1, and had lost both PRs by the third night

yessss although that was only because the doctor had to claim at E-1, right? which isn’t something that should happen under Cook’s strategy because we no-lim D2 unless there’s a CC or such

Doctor had to claim d3

wait, so tracker died n2? so doc didn’t save them?

as to your other post, isn’t it 50%?

but hm no yeah I see your point, and tracker follow-the-cop isn’t actually all that great
seeing someone going to you could be either doc or scum, if it’s two goons then tracking the non-kill goon looks like a clear but it ain’t
it frees up room for scum to make plays, which isn’t good

but MargotRosa — while you’re around, if you still are — what do you think of Galron, so far?

[Facebones]

facebones what are your thoughts on spangled

Jury's still out on that one. I'm a little suspicious of 123 and 142, could it be an attempt at buddying?
I don't feel like my three posts should put me at the top of anyones townpile.

On the other hand I feel he was sincere about his initial apprehension and questioning of your plan, trying to get a firmer grasp on it to see if it would indeed be beneficial for town. When reading through, I noticed the questions he was asking were similar to questions I myself was thinking

[Spangled]

facebones what are your thoughts on spangled

I don't feel like my three posts should put me at the top of anyones townpile.

just shows you how small my townpile is

I mean, it’s not like it should be large yet
it’s like page 5 or something, still got 8 ‘days’ left in the Day and I’ve made a ridiculous quantity of the posts so far

[Spangled]

oh crap page 7?
still, I’ve made about 50 posts so far, take away those fifty-odd posts and we’d be on page 5 :D
hell, I think we’d be on page 4, just

as to 123, I wasn’t buddying you there, what Galron was saying made no sense
I didn’t compliment you or anything; I just disagreed with him

[Spangled]

142 could be construed as buddying, but I’m confident in my facebones read so far, and I ask others to deny its logic
my tr gets better with this paranoia about being buddied, actually, I think

[Spangled]

I hit submit before I meant to
paranoia about being buddied is very towny, imo, and I’ve done it before as newb-er town than I am now :D
hell, I indulged in it in this game, about DArby, although once I thought it over on paper I realised it had no merit

anyway, I’m rambling, good night and make more content to engage with please

[Spangled]

142 could be construed as buddying, but I’m confident in my facebones read so far, and I ask others to deny its logic
my tr gets better with this paranoia about being buddied, actually, I think

this doesn’t really answer the idea that 142 could be buddying, not really anyway
what I meant to emphasise here is that I think my read makes logical sense, it’s not just idle buttering you up
although that still doesn’t quite answer it! but who cares

sorry and goodnight

[Facebones]

I want to hear what Thynhith thinks of you so I can better, or at all, read them.

Guessing his answer didn't do much for your read? If it did, please enlighten me.

I thought it was funny how he looked like he didn’t want the strategy to be done, because it helped him when he was scum, but then kinda said, ‘I understand your hesitance, but it's something we kinda have to decide on sooner rather than later if it's going to work’, which read like he was supporting it to me. But other than that he hasn’t said much or done much; maybe some slight townpoints for pointing out to us the games where your strategy was implemented (or not) and for saying that no one should VT-claim, but that’s inside anyone’s scumrange

He’s in the null-basket, but what can you expect for 6 posts, I guess

Roden's first 6 posts were arguably more useful for town than my first 3, and he's a null whereas I'm top of the list. It just doesn't sit right with me, I dunno.

But yes, Cook's idea; I'm not that keen on it. I feel like a lot of things would need to go right after we out one or both town PR's and it's needlessly giving scum information. Without any further ado, so far we have

FOR: Cook, Spangled

AGAINST: Roden, MargotRosa, DArby, Thynhith, Facebones

COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT: Galron, Mewtaph

[DArby]

I want to hear what Thynhith thinks of you so I can better, or at all, read them.

Guessing his answer didn't do much for your read? If it did, please enlighten me.

I thought it was funny how he looked like he didn’t want the strategy to be done, because it helped him when he was scum, but then kinda said, ‘I understand your hesitance, but it's something we kinda have to decide on sooner rather than later if it's going to work’, which read like he was supporting it to me. But other than that he hasn’t said much or done much; maybe some slight townpoints for pointing out to us the games where your strategy was implemented (or not) and for saying that no one should VT-claim, but that’s inside anyone’s scumrange

He’s in the null-basket, but what can you expect for 6 posts, I guess

Roden's first 6 posts were arguably more useful for town than my first 3, and he's a null whereas I'm top of the list. It just doesn't sit right with me, I dunno.

But yes, Cook's idea; I'm not that keen on it. I feel like a lot of things would need to go right after we out one or both town PR's and it's needlessly giving scum information. Without any further ado, so far we have

FOR: Cook, Spangled

AGAINST: Roden, MargotRosa, DArby, Thynhith, Facebones

COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT: Galron, Mewtaph

It's a done deal then. I don't think this has been a waste of time though. I feel we can make good readings from these in other day phases.

However that doesn't do much for this day so VOTE: Cook

[schadd_]

replacing mewtaph, who didn't pick up his role PM

[Cook]

i'm gonna go ahead and assume there's no tracker

as a result, we aren't in A2, B1, or B3

unless rep in claims tracker, i'm just gonna say we play d1 normally

that being said, spangled townread for sheer content, DArby i dislike for not having faith, facebones is low content as an RoT, margotrosa is scum lurking, roden is mid-content and most of it has been anti-me but considering that roden is shooting this down as a scum-winning strategy – which it is not – townread, Thynhith null, and Galron is scummy but i can't find any associative tells this early on.

VOTE: MargotRosa you are lurking get in the game

[MargotRosa]

I'm not lurking. I'm calling out bad plays and watching to see how obvious it becomes that you are scum. And that's a weak as hell vote by someone who is apparently against lurking

[MargotRosa]

i'm gonna go ahead and assume there's no tracker

as a result, we aren't in A2, B1, or B3

unless rep in claims tracker, i'm just gonna say we play d1 normally

that being said, spangled townread for sheer content, DArby i dislike for not having faith, facebones is low content as an RoT, margotrosa is scum lurking, roden is mid-content and most of it has been anti-me but considering that roden is shooting this down as a scum-winning strategy – which it is not – townread, Thynhith null, and Galron is scummy but i can't find any associative tells this early on.

VOTE: MargotRosa you are lurking get in the game

And you most certainly will not assume anything.

I get that you have decided you want to jump in and install yourself as Town leader. Big ups or whatever. That doesn't mean anything, and you stating that we are going to do something doesn't mean that's what we are going to do.

Honestly can't tell if arrogance or a desperate attempt to look so in charge that no-one could ever scum read you, especially given that the last game you pulled this in, you were the scum PR, and got eliminated nearly instantly.

To reiterate:
VOTE: Cook

[Spangled]

jeez Facebones you were awake late
or uh up early as the case may be :D
as to my read on Thynhith, no it didn't develop with that answer
I just hoped maybe they'd seen the stuff I had

I think so far wrt Thynhith I have a slight townlean; how they poked Galron over his sudden Roden read was the same thought I had
I really like to look for mindmeld with other players, 'cause games where I've mindmelded with someone and stuck with them all the way are just the best-feeling mafia games — you're not a poor, lonely VT struggling to make sense of it all; you have someone you trust fully and who trusts you
but that wasn't really mindmeld with Thynith anyway :D
so a wee townlean, just outta the null basket

[Spangled]

UNVOTE:
this just 'cause I'm not sure who I'm on

and Facebones, Roden's first six posts might have been more

useful

, but anyone can be useful
being towny is another matter
but I'll give it a rest

I think both Cook and MargotRosa are suffering from some OMGUS, here

[Roden]

@Cook:

I'm not necessarily anti-you. I don't think your strategy is scummy either, but I'm glad you understand why I don't trust it. I think if you were solely focused on getting the strategy to go through then my vote would be on you, but you're still at least trying to play the game and get discussion going at the same time.

I agree with the Null read on Thyn though, his posts just feel empty. He asks a couple basic questions but doesn't really do anything with the responses anyone gives him, and the post dissecting Cook's strat looks good but is really just a rewording of what Cook already said before. Kinda just makes me think of scum who isn't sure what to say.

VOTE: Thynhith

[Thynhith]

@Cook:

I'm not necessarily anti-you. I don't think your strategy is scummy either, but I'm glad you understand why I don't trust it. I think if you were solely focused on getting the strategy to go through then my vote would be on you, but you're still at least trying to play the game and get discussion going at the same time.

I agree with the Null read on Thyn though, his posts just feel empty. He asks a couple basic questions but doesn't really do anything with the responses anyone gives him, and the post dissecting Cook's strat looks good but is really just a rewording of what Cook already said before. Kinda just makes me think of scum who isn't sure what to say.

VOTE: Thynhith

I agree with you, if my posts feel empty it's because they are. I'm honestly not too sure what to do atm. Nothing's really caught my attention so far, cook's done nothing except suggest her strat, others have only a few posts or are lurking like me. It's really only spangled who's been posting avidly.

[Spangled]

I agree with the Null read on Thyn though, his posts just feel empty. He asks a couple basic questions but doesn't really do anything with the responses anyone gives him, and the post dissecting Cook's strat looks good but is really just a rewording of what Cook already said before. Kinda just makes me think of scum who isn't sure what to say.

VOTE: Thynhith

ehhhh, I haven’t looked back but has anyone given them any answers? like, the questions of theirs that I liked were put to Galron, who hasn’t deigned to answer yet

I understand your thought process here though.

[Spangled]

spangled townread for sheer content

what if I’d posted a lot of rubbish?
how is it so that ∵ content ∴ town

[Spangled]

I will get a somewhat-detailed readslist out sometime later today, if possible
not that you need to know that, but everyone needs something to look forward to, in their day :D

[Thynhith]

jeez Facebones you were awake late
or uh up early as the case may be
as to my read on Thynhith, no it didn't develop with that answer
I just hoped maybe they'd seen the stuff I had

I think so far wrt Thynhith I have a slight townlean; how they poked Galron over his sudden Roden read was the same thought I had
I really like to look for mindmeld with other players, 'cause games where I've mindmelded with someone and stuck with them all the way are just the best-feeling mafia games — you're not a poor, lonely VT struggling to make sense of it all; you have someone you trust fully and who trusts you
but that wasn't really mindmeld with Thynith anyway
so a wee townlean, just outta the null basket

Don't be buddying me here - even if you're not, it still feels like buddying and it's making me anxious lol

[Cook]

scum have a hard time posting with frequency, hence high post rate is often town indicative

some people like me are much less active than others as a natural thing so it’s not foolproof and the content of posts is important in making that judgement

[Galron]

Unless that person is Cook, because how can you be alert to an open wolf if you don't feel like reading their lengthy posts?

This proposes that you aren't reading her posts also.

Facebones, can you show me how my not reading those posts leads to me not being aware of their contents?

[Galron]

Is anyone strongly scumreading anyone else atp?

[Galron]

I will get a somewhat-detailed readslist out sometime later today, if possible
not that you need to know that, but everyone needs something to look forward to, in their day

I don't like this post, but it may be a style thing.