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[T3]

468 i was trying to quote both posts 470 was talking about 469

[Three]

because it was a random vote

Oh, I thought it was serious. I think three has been scummy

This is probably town since I'd expect scum to give an actual reason for their fake scum read.

[T3]

I'm not, but I also don't think I'm seasoned enough to think of a fakeclaim like that without help from a partner.

Okay. I buy it.

This seems slightly more likely to come from town than scum.

[Jacket]

Why?

[T3]

I feel like scum would have questioned it more + gut

[T3]

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

[Dwlee99]

T3 your one attempt at meta on me was doing this same exact wishy washy thing where you shade me and then do a ~idk~ at the end and you were scum

Good thing I don't believe in meta

[redtea]

Wait, how would I know who to go for in that situation?

Personally, I'd say use your best judgement and pray you hit red, because a green flip will require a solid explanation.

I'm sure others will likely disagree with me and want you leashed, but I don't because:

1) I hate being told what to do with my role, so I geddit
2) Probably not the best idea to let unsuspected scum influence your shot, or let them know who to avoid targeting if the target is town

then whats the part about how if there arent 2 kills after a scum lim, that will out me as fakeclaiming?

The following Day, there should be 2 flips. One from scum and one from you.

If you're targeting the same player as scum, your reads are shite at best and you need to die.

If scum doesn't know who YOU are targeting, odds are low that they'll hit the same player.

Like, technically they can no-kill, but it's suboptimal play to leave threats against them alive.

but I'm complex and can't read minds...?
And why specifically after scum is limmed?

[redtea]

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

tbh i was feeling a teeny tiny bit guilty for recognizing the scum meta and not acting on it bc 1) i wanted to play with them longer and 2) i thought i would try giving people a chance first and 3) mostly 1).

good to know i dont have to anymore tho if thats the case
/inb4 this gets me scumread

[Three]

I don't trust meta reads that aren't accompanied by a five page single space size 12 Times New Roman essay with at least three credible sources.

[redtea]

if their meta could be applied to this game, i would

[House]

Wait, how would I know who to go for in that situation?

Personally, I'd say use your best judgement and pray you hit red, because a green flip will require a solid explanation.

I'm sure others will likely disagree with me and want you leashed, but I don't because:

1) I hate being told what to do with my role, so I geddit
2) Probably not the best idea to let unsuspected scum influence your shot, or let them know who to avoid targeting if the target is town

then whats the part about how if there arent 2 kills after a scum lim, that will out me as fakeclaiming?

The following Day, there should be 2 flips. One from scum and one from you.

If you're targeting the same player as scum, your reads are shite at best and you need to die.

If scum doesn't know who YOU are targeting, odds are low that they'll hit the same player.

Like, technically they can no-kill, but it's suboptimal play to leave threats against them alive.

but I'm complex and can't read minds...?
And why specifically after scum is limmed?

If you shoot after a town lim, town will risk being down 3 members on d2 if you miss.

I don't know if you can math, but that's not a good number.

[T3]

T3 your one attempt at meta on me was doing this same exact wishy washy thing where you shade me and then do a ~idk~ at the end and you were scum

Good thing I don't believe in meta

This is a legit mta tell.

[Dwlee99]

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

tbh i was feeling a teeny tiny bit guilty for recognizing the scum meta and not acting on it bc 1) i wanted to play with them longer and 2) i thought i would try giving people a chance first and 3) mostly 1).

good to know i dont have to anymore tho if thats the case
/inb4 this gets me scumread

I don't think we have ever played together where I'm scum?

T3 your one attempt at meta on me was doing this same exact wishy washy thing where you shade me and then do a ~idk~ at the end and you were scum

Good thing I don't believe in meta

This is a legit mta tell.

Doubt

[T3]

The tell worked across I think all 9 towngames and 3 scumgames where you didn't replace in.

[Dwlee99]

But when I replace in I'm scummy? lmao

I hate this so much cause I'm gonna have to try to figure out what it is so I don't end up accidentally trust telling against you

[T3]

But when I replace in I'm scummy? lmao

I hate this so much cause I'm gonna have to try to figure out what it is so I don't end up accidentally trust telling against you

When you replace in you will almost always be scum by the tell, yes.

[redtea]

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

tbh i was feeling a teeny tiny bit guilty for recognizing the scum meta and not acting on it bc 1) i wanted to play with them longer and 2) i thought i would try giving people a chance first and 3) mostly 1).

good to know i dont have to anymore tho if thats the case
/inb4 this gets me scumread

I don't think we have ever played together where I'm scum?

no but i meta'd you in the most recent game we played and that ended up with me locktowning you

[redtea]

okay okay
House
I interpreted your original post as saying, "if scum is eliminated during the day, and there is only one kill during the following night, that means redtea was fakeclaiming."
What I'm asking is, how does that work? How would I, as a town complex vigilante, be able to prove myself. I have like no idea what you're talking about. I can be town and miss. Are you saying if I miss in that scenario, I should be limmed just in case or what?

[redtea]

this like isnt even that relevant but i dont want to end up in a weird situation later

[T3]

okay okay
House
I interpreted your original post as saying, "if scum is eliminated during the day, and there is only one kill during the following night, that means redtea was fakeclaiming."
What I'm asking is, how does that work? How would I, as a town complex vigilante, be able to prove myself. I have like no idea what you're talking about. I can be town and miss. Are you saying if I miss in that scenario, I should be limmed just in case or what?

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

tbh i was feeling a teeny tiny bit guilty for recognizing the scum meta and not acting on it bc 1) i wanted to play with them longer and 2) i thought i would try giving people a chance first and 3) mostly 1).

good to know i dont have to anymore tho if thats the case
/inb4 this gets me scumread

I don't think we have ever played together where I'm scum?

no but i meta'd you in the most recent game we played and that ended up with me locktowning you

DWLEE HAS META CONFIRMED
wait but how do you know the tell i have is the tell you have?

[HawaiianPizza]

so this game exists,

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

[T3]

We should

not

lim redtea today. If what cookie is saying is true, which it likely is then there is probably some kind of vig. If redtea is scum then redtea gets shot. Yay town. If redtea doesn't get shot then we might have a problem, in which case we could lim redtea.

Either way, we gain nothing from limming redtea today. However, statistically we have a chance to get a free redtea scumflip if we leave them alive for tonight.

[HawaiianPizza]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)