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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:58 am

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In post 573, Taly wrote:It seems like you're talking to other players about Prism but you're in a 1v1 with Prism directly.
That’s exactly the point. I’m like a prizefighter, I’m clashing with my foe while also trying to glitz it up for those watching. And it is extra-pertinent I do so because those watching, much like in a gladiatorial match, have the ability to give the thumbs-up or thumbs-down to my cause.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:58 am

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I think 555 covers my progression from wanting my own elimination to turning my eye more critically towards Gamma, particularly the part about what happened when I calmed down.

Regarding your (Taly)'s push for the chair, I believe that is the motivation
if you are scum
, but as discussed previously you are a townlean.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:01 am

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oh, thanks for the links
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In post 573, Taly wrote:It seems like you're talking to other players about Prism but you're in a 1v1 with Prism directly.
That’s exactly the point. I’m like a prizefighter, I’m clashing with my foe while also trying to glitz it up for those watching. And it is extra-pertinent I do so because those watching, much like in a gladiatorial match, have the ability to give the thumbs-up or thumbs-down to my cause.
It feels like this could easily be a method for you to rain check how the thread perceives you, or try to paint
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:01 am

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In post 574, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, to go straight off the deep end logic-wise, your little post link paper trails reinforce the idea that you’re overly self-conscious.
I encourage you to supplement your case for this with meta and your 4 years of experience with me as a player if you believe it to be scummy.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:05 am

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That concern feels fair but idk how to exactly rectify that rn
Part of the issue is Prism is trying to swamp me with evidence to sift through and rather than deal with a bunch of grist and shit that probably doesn’t matter I’m focusing on what I find pertinent. I had a similar reaction when ssbm_Kyouko cased me in Radio Buzz.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:05 am

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That was @Taly
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:09 am

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Strange that half this table, every single one of whom have fewer games with me than you, can readily vouch that I am this aggressive and pull out receipts like this in a flash as town, but this is the most pertinent and scummy point to you.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:11 am

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Alright, if I post again in the next few hours someone slap me.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:12 am

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Ceph
who are you and can we pocket each other?
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:12 am

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I probably barely remember most of our games
And tbh I do see similarities to what kyouko did in your play but I’m not ready to back down just yet
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:25 am

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This is unrelated but I remember the only time I caught
Gamma
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It was
Merchant's Daughter
and he had paired with an IC.

He 180'd his townread on me the second I scumread him. Then the IC lunged and scumread me.

I eliminated them.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10748890
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10750220

Hehe, so I can officially say that I've eliminated an
innocent child
before. That should strike fear in scum of my capabilities.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:26 am

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In post 583, Taly wrote:
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hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:30 am

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Cephrir wrote:
In post 583, Taly wrote:
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hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

i'm still trying to figure you out!
same here! let's do a popcorn back-and-forth question/commentary game!

It seems like your interest in the thread waned when you saw the
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altercation round 1000. Has any of their own posts helped inform you on their alignment?
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:32 am

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:40 am

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taly do you have any thoughts on saber so far?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 587, Taly wrote:
Cephrir wrote:
In post 583, Taly wrote:
Ceph
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hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

i'm still trying to figure you out!
same here! let's do a popcorn back-and-forth question/commentary game!

It seems like your interest in the thread waned when you saw the
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i think it would be fair to say i never had a ton of interest in the thread to begin with (i am quite excited about the game, but haven't found much of the thread interesting yet. i expect this will change eventually.), but it's also true that arguments with 7000 layers tend to especially bore me.

i still lean towards gamma being scum here. i think his pooky vote was nonsense, his tilting seemed a little scummy to me, i think several times he has thrown out votes in a weak attempt to distract from himself, and he's just acting strange overall, which makes him a good place for my vote right now as I have 0 other suspects. the fact that he's obviously losing the argument i don't care so much about -- i know that some players are just not as good at 1v1s and being one of those myself i can sympathize. but, i'm not sure i see a sense that he believes in the points he's making, which i do care about.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:51 am

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In post 588, Taly wrote:
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you weren't really lowering my whim, i am just ... uh, sensitive to say the least so pls don't take it like that

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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 412, Galron wrote:Hey tally is in this game.
In post 413, Galron wrote:sorry taly
Hi! I presume you're an alt of a main who I've played with before? How many games?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 329, ulyana wrote:
In post 292, Taly wrote:yeah, that's everybody I've played with before
we played together in student council; you were part of a hydra with alisae i was tracy flick
In post 299, Prism wrote:I was the first player who brought attention to the fact it may not be a straightforward elim.
i mean, i asked someone if they thought it was just an elimination beforehand,
In post 305, Taly wrote:I want Ulyana to come in and give non-setup takes before I give an opinion.
anything specific you want my take on?
Gamma's
a slot getting a lot of attention, is it warranted?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:09 am

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oh and hi
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omg I'm so scattered with posts, I don't want to become a hyperposter.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:12 am

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I kinda wanna take some time to let things simmer wrt how I feel about Prism. Meanwhile:
VOTE: SirCakez
You feel notably absent right now. What’s going on?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:20 am

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Infinity
In post 461, Saber wrote:
In post 285, Gamma Emerald wrote:All of Pooky’s SRs feel valid
Typically if Pooky is town I end up thinking one or more of his SRs are bad
In post 288, Gamma Emerald wrote:Peta/Prism/Ydrasse all seem like okay slots to sus rn
In post 290, Gamma Emerald wrote:From his perspective as well as in general those 3 aren’t great so far
Peta’s kinda felt reactive
Prism’s desire to be acquitted was a little skeevy and his reaction to being sussed was to claim joke which while technically valid doesn’t negate what actual tangible game thoughts he displayed with his joke
Ydrasse trying to jump in on the pockit fun felt a little overwrought
It's too early in the game to be voting someone because 'I don't think any of their paid actor reads are bad and I usually do' when Gamma has other valid suspicions.

It may just be inoptimal play over paid actor play though, since the reasons for his other suspicions are reasonable.
Only post that stuck out so far from them. I don't think
Saber/Gamma
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Gamma
is approaching
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aggro and I don't think a scumbuddy willingly incriminates themselves to defend a less than optimistic cause. At least, that's my presumption of a typical player I have no experience with.

The interpretation that
Gamma
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Saber
might be deepwolfing. But that's too stretchy to assume at this stage, and in poor faith.

I think
Saber
weighing the possibilities behind the posts that rile people up about
Gamma
is in good-faith, and likeliest town.

TLDR

T/T or T/S.
Saber
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 590, Cephrir wrote:i still lean towards gamma being scum here. i think his pooky vote was nonsense, his tilting seemed a little scummy to me, i think several times he has thrown out votes in a weak attempt to distract from himself, and he's just acting strange overall, which makes him a good place for my vote right now as I have 0 other suspects. the fact that he's obviously losing the argument i don't care so much about -- i know that some players are just not as good at 1v1s and being one of those myself i can sympathize. but, i'm not sure i see a sense that he believes in the points he's making, which i do care about.
Gamma
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 am

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In post 591, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 588, Taly wrote:
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you weren't really lowering my whim, i am just ... uh, sensitive to say the least so pls don't take it like that

i am feeling better now about stuff so it's all good!
I believe this response is town-indicative. :D
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:31 am

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Taly, what do you think of Cakez rn? I feel like him being low-impact early is pretty strange in general but slightly scum-indicative based on recent meta
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